Is the revelation of the Qur’an an unacceptable just becuase it was thru Gabriel?

Ang Quran?

Isa sa pangkaraniwang ginagamit ng mga Muslim para patunayan ang pagka-propeta ni Muhammad ay ang Quran.

Humingi ako sa mga Muslim ng kahit isang salita sa Quran na Diyos mismo ang nagsabi kay Muhammad, Wala silang maibigay dahil aminado sila na hindi ang Allah ang nag-reveal ng Quran kay Muhammad. Yung “anghel” daw ang nag-reveal.

Pero hindi rin mapatunayan ng mga Muslim na “anghel” ang nag-reveal sa Quran. Wala silang maipakitang credible proof na merong “anghel” na kumausap kay Muhammad.
Dahil diyan, hindi batayan ang sinasabi ng Quran bilang patunay sa pagka-propeta ni Muhammad.”

—- from CENON BIBE JR. / http://sagot-sa-balik-islam.blogspot.com/

My Comment:

Sabi mo, “Isa sa pangkaraniwang ginagamit ng mga Muslim para patunayan ang pagka-propeta ni Muhammad ay ang Quran.” Dito po sa Qur’an, napakaraming Scientific Proofs ay nailalahad. Ang ilan po riyan ay makikita sa website na http://www.islam-guide.com . . . . Pakisagot na din po iyong mga tanong doon sa isang pahina after mo basahin ang mga scientific proofs. (1) Could it be a coincidence that all this recently discovered scientific information from different fields was mentioned in the Quran, which was revealed fourteen centuries ago? and (2) Could this Quran have been authored by Muhammad or by any other human being?

“Humingi ako sa mga Muslim ng kahit isang salita sa Quran na Diyos mismo ang nagsabi kay Muhammad. Wala silang maibigay dahil aminado sila na hindi ang Allah ang nag-reveal ng Quran kay Muhammad. Yung “anghel” daw ang nag-reveal.”

Opo, anghel nga po. Mula diyan sa dalawang pangungusap mo, kung anghel nga ang nag-reveal kay Muhammad (saw) at hindi ka naniniwala, hindi mo din ba paniniwalaan ang mga sinabi ng anghel na nagpakita kay Maria patungkol sa pakakaroon ni Maria ng anak na siya namang kagustuhan Diyos ayon sa Bibliya?

“Pero hindi rin mapatunayan ng mga Muslim na “anghel” ang nag-reveal sa Quran. Wala silang maipakitang credible proof na merong “anghel” na kumausap kay Muhammad.
Dahil diyan, hindi batayan ang sinasabi ng Quran bilang patunay sa pagka-propeta ni Muhammad.”

Kinukwestiyon mo ba kung ang kagustuhan ng Diyos kung ayaw Niya na may makakita sa tuwing itinuturo ni Gabriel ang Kanyang (ang Diyos) Salita (mga Ayaah) kay Muhammad? Ang pamimilit mo na dapat ay ang Diyos mismo maghayag nito kay Muhammad ng Qur’an at sa kanyang pagiging propeta ay para mo na ring kinokonta ang Diyos at sinasabing mali ang hakbang Niya, at ayon sa iyo ay batay sa Bibliya. Alalahanin mong muli na sa Bibliya iyan. Tungkol naman sa may akda ng mga libro sa Bibliya na nag-ulat sa pangyayaring nagpakita ang anghel kay Maria at nagsabing si Maria ay magkakaroon ng anak, nandoon ba ang naturang may-akda o mga may akda sa mga naturang tagpo?

KAPAG AKO NAGPADALA SA IYO NG LIHAM, SA PAMAMAGITAN NG POSTAL SERVICE AT ITO AY ISANG ARAW NAKARATING SA IYO DALA NG ISANG POSTMAN MULA SA NATURANG POSTAL SERVICE AGENCY, SASABIHIN MO BANG HINDI AKO ANG SUMULAT O KAYA AY ANG POSTMAN ANG SUMULAT DAHIL SIYA ANG NAGDALA SA IYO AT HINDI AKO?

From his last Sermon: “Oh people, reflect on my words. I leave behind me two things, the Quran and my example and if you follow these, you will not fail.”

Quran: “And obey God and the Messenger so that you may receive mercy” (3:132).

“Verily, this is the Word (this Quran brought by) an honourable messenger (Gabriel), from God to the Prophet Muhammad.  Owner of power, and high rank with (God, the Lord of the Throne).  Obeyed (by the angels), trustworthy there in the heavens.” (Quran 81:19-21)

Gabriel brought down the words of God – the Quran – to Prophet Muhammad.

“…Jibreel – for he brings down the (revelation) to your heart by God’s will, a confirmation of what went before, and guidance and glad tidings to those who believe”. (Quran 2:87)

When Prophet Muhammad rose in the night to pray he would begin his prayer with the words, “O God, Lord of Jibreel, Mikaeel and Israfeel, Creator of heaven and earth, Knower of the unseen and the seen. You are the Judge of the matters in which Your slaves differ.  Guide me with regard to disputed matters of Truth by Your permission, for You guide whomever You will to the Straight Path.”

God is obeyed by the angel. — Qur’an 66:6 >> What did the angel do in Qur’an 53:10 is part of what is commanded to him by God, to teach Muhammad His Words. >> God says in Qur’an 74:1-4 to Muhammad to ARISE AND WARN, GLORY THE GOD AND PURIFY HIS CLOTHING.

In Qur’an 3:132, it LOGICALLY and CLEARLY means that NOT OBEYING MUHAMMAD, MEANS NOT OBEYING GOD ALSO.

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Relevant explanation here.

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23 Responses to Is the revelation of the Qur’an an unacceptable just becuase it was thru Gabriel?

  1. Norhajjar says:

    JazakAllahuKhair for defending Islam logically. May Allah(swt) shower you and your family with mercy.

  2. NAMI-MISS KO na po KAYO sa PAG-KOMENTO sa BLOG KO.

    Anyway, baka po puwede ninyong SAGUTIN ang TANONG KO: PAANO po NINYO MASASABI na ANGHEL ANG NAG-REVEAL ng QURAN kung KAYO MISMO ang UMAMIN na WALANG KAHIT ANONG PROOF na MAY ANGHEL na NAGPAKITA kay MUHAMMAD?

    Yung TUNGKOL po sa MGA REBELASYON sa BIBLIYA ay NASAGOT KO na po IYAN doon sa BLOG KO.

    Salamat po.

  3. [benmfwnt] says:

    Cenon, hindi na kailanagan na mayroong saksi o mga saksi sa sa tuwing mag-uusap sina Gabriel at Nabi Muhammad (sumakanya nawa ang kapayapaan). Nasa Diyos na iyon na kagustuhan. Marami ang mga patunay sa pagiging galing sa sa Diyos ng Qur’an. Mga Scientific, Hadeethic, Prophetic, etc.

    You haven’t answer my question too:

    Kung ako ay sumulat sa iyo, mula dito sa amin at akin itong ipinadala sa isang postal service agency. At ang sulat ay dinala sa iyong bahay ng isang postman, TANONG: Ako ba ang may-ari ng sulat at ang mga salita’t diwa na napapaloob doon sulat o ang postman? Pakisagot lang po.

  4. [defenderben] says:

    Site Update:

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    I just wanna add:

    Can Allah be seen and did Muhammad see his Lord?

    Sam Shamoun

    The Quran suggests that Muhammad saw Allah, that he had a vision in which Allah appeared to him visibly:

    By the Star when it plunges, your comrade is not astray, neither errs, nor speaks he out of caprice. This is naught but a revelation revealed, taught HIM by ONE terrible in power, very strong; HE STOOD POISED, being on the higher horizon, THEN DREW NEAR and suspended hung, two bows’-length away, or nearer, then REVEALED TO HIS SERVANT that HE REVEALED. His heart lies not of what he saw; what, will you dispute with him what he sees? Indeed, he SAW HIM ANOTHER TIME by the Lote-Tree of the Boundary nigh which is the Garden of the Refuge, when there covered the Lote-Tree that which covered; his eye swerved not; nor swept astray. Indeed, he saw one of the greatest signs of his Lord. S. 53:1-18 Arberry

    The above refers to an unnamed comrade who hasn’t gone astray and who doesn’t speak out of caprice. Muslims unanimously take this to be an obvious reference to Muhammad. It goes on to say that he (Muhammad) was taught by one terrible in power, very strong (Allah), and that he (Allah) stood poised and drew near and revealed to his servant (Muhammad) the revelation. The expression “revealed to his servant” clearly shows that this is speaking of Allah and Muhammad, that Allah appeared to Muhammad in order to grant him revelation. The text cannot be saying that Gabriel appeared to Muhammad since this would imply that the latter is the servant of Gabriel.

    Lo! I swear by the slinkers, the runners, the sinkers, by the night swarming, the dawn sighing, truly this is the word of a noble Messenger (rasoolin kareemin) having power, with the Lord of the Throne secure, obeyed, moreover trusty. Your companion is not possessed; he truly SAW HIM on the clear horizon; he is not niggardly of the Unseen. And it is not the word of an accursed Satan; where then are you going? It is naught but a Reminder unto all beings, for whosoever of you who would go straight; but will you shall not, unless God wills, the Lord of all Being. S. 81:15-29 Arberry

    The above reference seems to be saying that Muhammad is the companion who is not possessed, the noble messenger having power who is secure with the Lord of the throne, i.e. Allah. There is even another text which identifies Muhammad as a noble messenger:

    it is the speech of a noble Messenger (rasoolin kareemin). It is not the speech of a poet (little do you believe) nor the speech of a soothsayer (little do you remember). A sending down from the Lord of all Being. Had he invented against Us any sayings, We would have seized him by the right hand, then We would surely have cut his life-vein and not one of you could have defended him. S. 69:40-47 Arberry

    If this is the case then S. 81:15-29 is another reference to Muhammad seeing Allah on a clear horizon.

    In fact, specific Islamic narrations understood that these texts, specifically Sura 53, meant that Muhammad had actually seen his lord:

    Chapter 78: THE MEANING OF THE WORDS OF ALLAH:” HE SAW HIM IN ANOTHER DESCENT” (AL-QUR’AN, LIII. 13). DID THE APOSTLE (MAY PEACE BE UPON HIM) SEE HIS LORD ON THE NIGHT OF HIS JOURNEY (TO HEAVEN)?

    It is narrated on the authority of Ibn ‘Abbas that he (the Holy Prophet) saw (Allah) with his heart. (Sahih Muslim, Book 001, Number 0334)

    It is narrated on the authority of Ibn Abbas that the words: “The heart belied not what he saw” (al-Qur’an, Iiii. 11) and “Certainly he saw Him in another descent” (al-Qur’an, Iiii. 13) imply that he saw him twice with his heart. (Sahih Muslim, Book 001, Number 0335)

    Carefully note here that Ibn Abbas understood Sura 53:11,13 to be referring to Muhammad seeing Allah, not Gabriel.

    Narrated AbdurRahman ibn A’ish
    Allah’s Messenger (peace be upon him) said: I saw my Lord, the Exalted and Glorious in the most beautiful form. He said: What do the Angels in the presence of Allah contend about? I said: Thou art the most aware of it. He then placed HIS PALM between my shoulders and I felt its coldness in my chest and I came to know what was in the Heavens and the Earth. He recited: ‘Thus did we show Ibrahim the kingdom of the Heavens and the Earth and it was so that he might have certainty.’(6:75)
    Darimi reported it in a mursal form and Tirmidhi also reported. (Tirmidhi Hadith, Number 237; ALIM CD-ROM Version)

    Narrated Mu’adh ibn Jabal
    Allah’s Messenger (peace be upon him) was detained one morning from observing the dawn prayer (in congregation) along with us till the sun had almost appeared on the horizon. He then came out hurriedly and Iqamah for prayer was observed and he conducted it (prayer) in brief form. When he had concluded the prayer by saying As-salamu alaykum wa Rahmatullah, he called out to us saying: Remain in your places as you were. Then turning to us he said: I am going to tell you what detained me from you (on account of which I could not join you in the prayer) in the morning. I got up in the night and performed ablution and observed the prayer as had been ordained for me. I dozed in my prayer till I was overcome by (sleep) and lo, I found myself in the presence of my Lord, the Blessed and the Glorious, IN THE BEST FORM. He said: Muhammad! I said: At Thy service, my Lord. He said: What these highest angels contend about? I said: I do not know. He repeated it thrice. He said: Then I saw Him put HIS PALMS between my shoulder blades till I felt the coldness of HIS FINGERS between the two sides of my chest. Then everything was illuminated for me and I could recognize everything. He said: Muhammad! I said: At Thy service, my Lord. He said: What do these high angels contend about? I said: In regard to expiations. He said: What are these? I said: Going on foot to join congregational prayers, sitting in the mosques after the prayers, performing ablution well despite difficulties. He again said: Then what do they contend? I said: In regard to the ranks. He said: What are these? I said: Providing of food, speaking gently, observing the prayer when the people are asleep. He again said to me: Beg (Your Lord) and say: O Allah, I beg of Thee (power) to do good deeds, and abandon abominable deeds, to love the poor, that Thou forgive me and show mercy to me and when Thou intendst to put people to trial Thou causes me to die unblemished and I beg of Thee Thy love and the love of one who loves Thee and the love for the deed which brings me near to Thy love. Allah’s Messenger (peace be upon him) said: It is a truth, so learn it and teach it.
    Transmitted by Ahmad, Tirmidhi who said: This is a hasan sahih hadith and I asked Muhammad ibn Isma’il about this hadith and he said: It is a sahih hadith. (Tirmidhi Hadith, Number 245; ALIM CD-ROM Version)

    These narrations obviously presuppose that Allah took the form of a man, a point reiterated by the next traditions taken from another Muslim source:

    The Prophet saw Allah before death as is the doctrine of the majority of Ah al-Sunna thus related from al-Nawawi by al-Qari. The evidence for this is the hadith of Ibn ‘Abbas whereby the Prophet said: “I saw my Lord” (ra’aytu rabbi). Ibn Kathir cited it in his commentary on Sura al-Najm and declared its chain sound, but considered it part of the hadith of the dream cited below. Ibn Qayyim [see excerpt below] relates that Imam Ahmad considered such sight to be in the Prophet’s sleep but remains a true sight – as the dreams of Prophets are true – and that some of the Imam’s companions mistakenly attributed to him the position that the Prophet saw his Lord “with the eyes of his head.”

    Al-Bayhaqi also narrated the hadith “I saw my Lord” in al-Asma’ wa al-Sifat with a sound chain but with the addition: “in the form of a curly-haired, beardless young man wearing a green robe,” a condemned, disauthenticated addition and concatenation with another hadith that refers to Gibril. Hence al-Suyuti interpreted it either as a dream or, quoting his shaykh Ibn al-Humam, as “the veil of form” (hijab al-sura)… (Islamic Doctrines and Beliefs: Volume 1: The Prophets in Barzakh, The Hadith of Isra’ and Mir’aj, The Immense Merits of Al-Sham, The Vision of Allah, Al-Sayyid Muhammad Ibn ‘Alawi al-Maliki, translation and notes by Dr. Gibril Fouad Haddad [As-Sunna Foundation of America 1999], pp. 137-138; bold and underline emphasis ours)

    In a footnote the translator mentions another narration that says Allah appeared as a man!

    … and from Umm al-Tufayl by al-Tabarani (6:158 #3385). The latter chain actually states: “I saw my Lord in the best form of a beardless young man” and was rejected by al-Dhahabi in Tahdhib al-Mawdua’at (p. 22 #22)… (p. 139, fn. 257)

    How interesting. Some Muslims were forging narrations in which they had Allah appearing as a young man!

    The Quran also says that no one can see Allah:

    Such is GOD your Lord, there is no god except He, the Creator of all things. You shall worship Him alone. He is in control of all things. No visions can encompass Him, but He encompasses all visions. He is the Compassionate, the Cognizant. S. 6:102-103 Khalifa

    It is not fitting for a man that God should speak to him EXCEPT by inspiration, or from behind a veil, or by the sending of a messenger to reveal, with God’s permission, what God wills: for He is Most High, Most Wise. S. 42:51 Y. Ali

    In light of this plain denial of anyone being able to see Allah it is therefore not surprising to find conflicting views and narrations which deny that Muhammad saw his lord:

    Narrated Masruq:

    I said to ‘Aisha, “O Mother! Did Prophet Muhammad see his Lord?” Aisha said, “What you have said makes my hair stand on end! Know that if somebody tells you one of the following three things, HE IS A LIAR: Whoever tells you that Muhammad saw his Lord, IS A LIAR.” Then Aisha recited the Verse:

    ‘No vision can grasp Him, but His grasp is over all vision. He is the Most Courteous Well-Acquainted with all things.’ (6.103) ‘It is not fitting for a human being that Allah should speak to him except by inspiration or from behind a veil.’ (42.51) ‘Aisha further said, “And whoever tells you that the Prophet knows what is going to happen tomorrow, is a liar.” She then recited:

    ‘No soul can know what it will earn tomorrow.’ (31.34) She added: “And whoever tells you that he concealed (some of Allah’s orders), is a liar.” Then she recited: ‘O Apostle! Proclaim (the Message) which has been sent down to you from your Lord…’ (5.67) ‘Aisha added. “But the Prophet saw Gabriel in his true form twice.” (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60, Number 378)

    Narrated Masruq:

    ‘Aisha said, “If anyone tells you that Muhammad has seen his Lord, HE IS A LIAR, FOR ALLAH SAYS: ‘No vision can grasp Him.’ (6.103) And if anyone tells you that Muhammad has seen the Unseen, he is a liar, for Allah says: ‘None has the knowledge of the Unseen but Allah.’” (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 93, Number 477)

    It is narrated on the authority of Masruq that he said: I was resting at (the house of) ‘A’isha that she said: O Abu ‘A’isha (kunya of Masruq), there are three things, and he who affirmed even one of them fabricated the greatest lie against Allah. I asked what they were. She said: He who presumed that Muhammad (may peace be upon him) saw his Lord (with his ocular vision) fabricated the greatest lie against Allah. I was reclining but then sat up and said: Mother of the Faithful, wait a bit and do not be in a haste. Has not Allah (Mighty and Majestic) said: “And truly he saw him on the clear horizon” (al-Qur’an, lxxxi. 23) and “he saw Him in another descent” (al-Qur’an, liii. 13)? She said: I am the first of this Ummah who asked the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) about it, and he said: Verily he is Gabriel. I have never seen him in his original form in which he was created except on those two occasions (to which these verses refer); I saw him descending from the heaven and filling (the space) from the sky to the earth with the greatness of his bodily structure. She said: Have you not heard Allah saying: “Eyes comprehend Him not, but He comprehends (all) vision. And He is Subtle, and All-Aware” (al-Qur’an, vi. 103)? (She, i. e. ‘A’isha, further said): Have you not heard that, verily, Allah says: “And it is not vouchsafed to a human being that Allah should speak unto him otherwise than by revelation, or from behind a veil, or that He sendeth a messenger (angel), so that he revealeth whatsoever He wills. Verily He is Exalted, Wise” (al-Qur’an, xlii. 51) She said: He who presumes that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) concealed anything from the Book, of Allah fabricates the greatest lie against Allah. Allah says: “O Messenger! Deliver that which has been revealed to thee from thy Lord, and if thou do (it) not, thou hast not delivered His message” (al-Qur’an, v. 67). She said: He who presumes that he would inform about what was going to happen tomorrow fabricates the greatest lie against Allah. And Allah says: “Say thou (Muhammad): None in the heavens and the earth knoweth the unseen save Allah” (al-Qur’an, xxvii. 65). (Sahih Muslim, Book 001, Number 0337)

    Here, Aisha recites Suras 6:103 and 42:51 to prove that Muhammad could not have seen his lord, and explicitly stated that if anyone claims otherwise then he or she is a liar. Thus, according to one of the mothers of the Muslim believers, one whom many even recognize as being a scholar of Islam, men such as Ibn Abbas are liars for contradicting the Quran!

    There is more:

    Al-Shaibini reported to us: I asked Zirr b. Hubaish about the words of Allah (the Mighty and Great): “So he was (at a distance) of two bows or nearer” (al-Qur’an, liii. 8). He said: Ibn Mas’ud informed me that, verily, the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) saw Gabriel and he had six hundred wings. (Sahih Muslim, Book 001, Number 0330)

    Al-Shaibani narrated on the authority of Zirr who narrated it on this authority of Abdullah that the (words of Allah): “The heart belied not what he saw” (al Qur’an, liii. 11) imply that he saw Gabriel (peace be upon him) and he had six hundred wings. (Sahih Muslim, Book 001, Number 0331)

    Zirr b. Hubaish narrated it on the authority of ‘Abdullah (that the words of Allah): “Certainly he saw of the greatest signs of Allah” (al-Qur’an, liii. 18) imply that he saw Gabriel in his (original) form and he had six hundred wings. (Sahih Muslim, Book 001, Number 0332)

    It is narrated on the authority of Abu Huraira that the (words of Allah): “And certainly he saw him in another descent” (al-Qur’an, Iiii. 13) imply that he saw Gabriel. (Sahih Muslim, Book 001, Number 0333)

    Moreover:

    Chapter 79: PERTAINING TO HIS (PROPHET’S) WORDS: HE IS A LIGHT; HOW COULD I SEE HIM? – AND HIS WORDS: I SAW THE LIGHT

    It is narrated on the authority of Abu Dharr: I asked the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him): Did you see thy Lord? He said: He is a Light. How could I see Him? (Sahih Muslim, Book 001, Number 0341)

    Abdullah b. Shaqiq reported: I said to Abu Dharr: Had I seen the Messenger of Allah, I would have asked him. He (Abu Dharr) said: What is that thing that you wanted to inquire of him? He said: I wanted to ask him whether he had seen his Lord. Abu Dharr said: I, in fact, inquired of him, and he replied: I saw Light. (Sahih Muslim, Book 001, Number 0342)

    The same source cited earlier that is translated by Haddad also records the views of those who denied that Muhammad saw his lord, noting the contradictions:

    Others considered Ibn ‘Abbas’ narration to refer to a vision with the eyes of the heart, as elucidated by Ibn ‘Abbas’ other narrations in Sahih Muslim and al-Tirmidhi (hasan): “He saw him with his heart.” Another narration from Ibn ‘Abbas in Muslim states: “He saw him with his heart twice,” in his commentary on the verses (53:11), (53:13)…

    Many sound reports show that the Companions differed SHARPLY whether the Prophet saw Allah or not. Ibn ‘Abbas related that he did, while Ibn Mas‘ud, ‘A’isha, Abu Hurayra, and Abu Dharr related reports TO THE CONTRARY, stating that the verses of Sura al-Najm and other Suras referred to Gibril, and that the Prophet said that he saw light. (Haddad, pp. 144-145; underline and capital emphasis ours)

    And:

    A narration by al-Tirmidhi from al-Sha‘bi cites two positions in context:

    Ibn ‘Abbas met Ka‘b [al-Ahbar] in ‘Arafa and asked him about something, whereupon Ka‘b began to shout Allahu Akbar! Until the mountains answered him. Ibn ‘Abbas said: “We are the Banu Hashim!” Ka‘b said: “Allah has apportioned His vision and His speech between Muhammad and Musa. Musa spoke with Him twice and Muhammad saw him twice.” Masruq said: “Later I went to ‘A’isha and asked: ‘Did Muhammad see his Lord?’ She replied: ‘You have said something that makes my hair stand on end.’ I said: ‘Do not rush!’ and recited [the verses which conclude with] the verse (53:18). She said: ‘Where is this taking you? It was about Gibril. Whoever tells you that Muhammad saw his Lord, or concealed something which he was commanded [to reveal], or knew the five things which Allah mentioned (31:34) – HE HAS TOLD AN ENORMOUS LIE. Rather, he saw Gibril, who he did not see in his actual form except twice: once at the Lote-Tree of the Farthest Boundary (sidra al-muntaha) and once in Jiyad [in Mecca], with his six hundred wings, he had filled the firmament.’” (Ibid., pp. 147-148; underline and capital emphasis ours)

    Finally:

    Ibn al-Qayyim in Zad al-Ma‘ad said:

    The Companions differed whether the Prophet actually saw his Lord that night [of isra’ and mi‘raj] or not. It is authentically narrated from Ibn ‘Abbas that the Prophet saw his Lord, and also authentically related that Ibn ‘Abbas said: “He saw Him with his heart.” It is also authentically related from ‘A’isha and Ibn Mas‘ud THAT THEY DENIED SUCH VISION, saying that Allah’s words (53:13) refer to Gibril. It is also authentically related from Abu Dharr that the latter asked the Prophet: “Did you see your Lord?” and he replied: “[I saw] a huge light, how could I see Him?” (nurun anna arah?). That is: light came in between myself and His sight, as stated in the wording: “I saw light” (ra’aytu nuran). Uthman ibn Sa‘id al-Darimi said that the Companions all agreed that the Prophet did not see Him. Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyya – may Allah sanctify his soul! – said:

    Ibn ‘Abbas’s[sic] statement that “He saw Him” does not contradict that claim, nor his statement that “He saw Him with his heart.” For it is also authentically related that the Prophet said: “I saw my Lord- glorified and exalted is He!” However, the latter was not during the isra’ but in Madina, when the Prophet was occupied and could not be with the Companions at the time of the dawn prayer, after which he told them about his vision of Allah during his sleep at night. It is on that evidence that Imam Ahmad based himself when he said: “Yes, he saw him in reality (na‘am ra’ahu haqqan), for the dream-vision of Prophets are real.” This is absolutely true, but Ahmad did not say that he saw Him with the eyes of his head while awake. Whoever said that he did, is mistaken. Ahmad said one other time: “He saw Him” and another time: “He saw Him with his heart.” These are two statements narrated from him on the issue. The third statement whereby “He saw Him with the eyes of his head” comes from the free paraphrase of some of his companions. Ahmad’s texts are present with us, and nowhere are such words found in them. (Ibid., pp. 148-150; capital emphasis ours)

    To summarize the confusion and contradictions:

    Did Muhammad see Allah or did he see Gabriel?
    Were Ibn Abbas and the majority of the people of Sunna correct that Muhammad did see his lord?
    Or were Aisha, Ibn Masud, Abu Hurayra, and Abu Dharr correct that it wasn’t his lord that he saw, but Gabriel?
    Can a believer see Allah in this life whether in a vision and/or in a visible form?
    Or can a person only know Allah from revelation, through a messenger, and/or behind a veil where Allah remains hidden?
    If Allah can be seen, then was Aisha wrong for quoting Suras 6:103 and 42:51 to prove the contrary?
    Or was Aisha correct that Allah cannot be seen, which means that Ibn Abbas and the others were all liars (according to her own words) for teaching the contrary?
    And if even those closest to Muhammad couldn’t figure this out, but contradicted each other, how can any Muslim expect to be able to settle this confusion?

  5. BEN SAID:
    Cenon, hindi na kailanagan na mayroong saksi o mga saksi sa sa tuwing mag-uusap sina Gabriel at Nabi Muhammad (sumakanya nawa ang kapayapaan). Nasa Diyos na iyon na kagustuhan. Marami ang mga patunay sa pagiging galing sa sa Diyos ng Qur’an. Mga Scientific, Hadeethic, Prophetic, etc.

    CENON BIBE:
    KAILANGAN po na MAY SAKSI na TOTOO KAYO at KAYO NGA ang SUMULAT sa AKIN.

    KUNG WALA e ANONG PROOF na TOTOO NGA KAYO? LALABAS e GAWA-GAWA LANG ng KUNG SINO ang SULAT na NAIPADALA sa AKIN.

    Yung sinasabi ninyong “DIYOS” e MALAYO ang KATANGIAN sa TUNAY na DIYOS na NAGPAKILALA sa TAO.

    Ang TUNAY na DIYOS ay HAYAGANG NAGPAKITA at NAGPAKILALA sa mga TAO. Kaya nga po MARAMING SAKSI sa TUNAY na DIYOS.

    Yang SINASABI NINYONG DIYOS o ANGHEL ay WALANG NAKASAKSI. Kaya nga po MASASABI na HINDI IYAN TOTOO at malamang ay GAWA-GAWA LANG ng ISANG TAO.

    • * Cenon, if you remember, ang sabi ko masasagot ko lang ang ayon sa alam ko.

      * Let us grant the fact that there is a witness or witnesses from the time I am writing to until it was delivered in your home, if that is what you want with the letter. Remember, you said that ANG TUNAY NA DIYOS ANG SIYANG DAPAT NA MAGSUGO SA KANYANG PROPETA.

      Ngayon, ako ba ang may-ari ng sulat, oo o hindi?

      * So what is the nature of the true God bye the way in the Roman Catholic view?

      * If my memory is right, there is a passage in the Qur’an saying:

      ” . . . ito (Qur’an) ay bahagi ng balita mula sa HINDI NAKIKITA . . . ”

      I will just provide the exact chapter and verse later/soon.

      * God be seen?
      EXO 24:9,10; AMO 9:1; GEN 26:2; and JOH 14:9
      God CAN be seen:
      “And I will take away my hand, and thou shalt see my backparts.” (EXO 33:23)
      “And the Lord spake to Moses face to face, as a man speaketh to his friend.” (EXO 33:11)
      “For I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.” (GEN 32:30)

      God CANNOT be seen:
      “No man hath seen God at any time.” (JOH 1:18)
      “And he said, Thou canst not see my face; for there shall no man see me and live.” (EXO 33:20)
      “Whom no man hath seen nor can see.” (1TIM 6:16)

      * AYON SA IYO, NAKIKITA ANG DIYOS, EH BAKIT SA IBANG PASSAGE NG BIBLIYA AY SINASABING HINDI? MY GOODNESS!

      * Muli ako o kami ay hindi namimilit sa inyo. Mahigpit na isinaad na huwag mamilit. Tama ka, maaring hindi totoo o gawa-gawa lamang. Ngunit, maaring totoo at hindi rin ito gawa-gawa. Tama ba? TANONG: ANG BIBLIYA BA AY HINDI GAWA-GAWA BASE SA MGA KONTRADIKSYONG INILAHAD KO SA ITAAS?

      * Tunkol sa mga Hadith, HINDI iyan katulad ng Qur’an na pinoprotektahan ng Diyos.
      “Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur’an and indeed, We will be its guardian.” (15:9)

      Malaki ang tsansa na maraming kontradiksyon ang lalabas. Ang pinaniniwalaan lang namin sa mga Hadith ay ang mga mapapanaligan. Ang Qur’an, ay HINDI katulad ng BIBLIYA. Ni hindi nyo nga alam kung saan ang tama sa dalawang passages minsan. Walang kahit isang letra o salita sa Qur’an ang napalitan until now. Patunay lamang ng kabanalan nito. Kahit sunugin pa ang lahat ng kopya nito sa mundo sa oras na ito mismo. Ito ay ipinahayag sa wikang Arabik. Wala itong bersyon. Kung may makita/mabasa man tayo na interpretasyon kahit sa anong wika, HINDI ITO ANG QUR’AN, O BERSYON NG QUR’AN.
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  6. [benmfwnt] = [defenderben]
    just to avoid confusion. thank you.

    CENON BIBE:
    Excuse me, Ben.

    What was your intention in reposting the article above by Sam Shamoun? Is it to show the contradictions in the Quran whether Muhammad saw Allah or not?

    Anyway, thanks. I hope you read it and saw the contradicting claims of Muslims in regard to your prophet seeing or not seeing Allah.

    Having said that, may I ask you if you agree with other Muslims that “a holy book” that has contradictions is “not from God”?

    Thanks.

    • [defenderben] says:

      * As I told you, sasagutin ko lang ang alam ko, kung mali naman pala ang pagkakaalam ko, eh hindi ibig sabihin noon na iyon din ang pagkakaalam ng lahat sa amin. Ang akin ay akin lamang, samantalang ang amin ay amin lahat na alam.

      * May mga tao talaga na iba’t-iba ang kanilang mga interpretasyon. Tulad na lamang ng sa inyo din Bibliya. Na sabi ninyong lahat ay BANAL. Banal nga ba?

      Pansinin:

      God good to all, or just a few?

      PSA 145:9 The LORD is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works.

      JER 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.

      [Editor’s note: Some readers have raised an objection to this alleged contradiction. They point out that PSA 145:20 states that The Lord keeps all who love Him, but that He will destroy the wicked. In other words, some see no contradiction between “The Lord is good to all” and JER 13:14. Others contend, however, that even if the Lord destroys the wicked he could do so with compassion, pity, and mercy. Further, there are biblical examples that indicate that the Lord is not necessarily “good” or merciful–even to those who are not wicked. One such example is Job. As one reader points out, “If Psalm 145:9 was not a contradiction of Psalm 145:20 or Jeremiah 13:14, it would read something like this: “The LORD is good to all, except the wicked: and his tender mercies are over all his works, except when He is punishing the wicked.” In any case, the idea that the Lord is good and merciful is contradicted by countless examples in the Bible where God orders the destruction of infants, personally kills David’s infant child, etc.]
      War or Peace?

      EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

      ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.
      Who is the father of Joseph?

      MAT 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

      LUK 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli.
      Who was at the Empty Tomb? Is it:

      MAT 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.

      MAR 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.

      JOH 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.
      Is Jesus equal to or lesser than?

      JOH 10:30 I and my Father are one.

      JOH 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
      Which first–beasts or man?

      GEN 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
      GEN 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

      GEN 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
      GEN 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
      How many stalls and horsemen?

      1KI 4:26 And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen.

      2CH 9:25 And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen; whom he bestowed in the chariot cities, and with the king at Jerusalem.
      Is it folly to be wise or not?

      PRO 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.

      ECC 1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.

      1CO 1:19: “For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.”
      Human vs. ghostly impregnation

      ACT 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

      MAT 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
      The sins of the father

      ISA 14:21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.

      DEU 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.
      Rabbits do not chew their cud

      LEV 11:6 And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.

      “Gerah,” the term which appears in the MT means (chewed) cud, and also perhaps grain, or berry (also a 20th of a sheckel, but I think that we can agree that that is irrelevant here). It does *not* mean dung, and there is a perfectly adequate Hebrew word for that, which could have been used. Furthermore, the phrase translated “chew the cud” in the KJV is more exactly “bring up the cud.” Rabbits do not bring up anything; they let it go all the way through, then eat it again. The description given in Leviticus is inaccurate, and that’s that. Rabbits do eat their own dung; they do not bring anything up and chew on it.
      Snails do not melt

      PSA 58:8 As a snail which melteth, let every one of them pass away: like the untimely birth of a woman, that they may not see the sun.
      Fowl from waters or ground?

      GEN 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
      GEN 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

      GEN 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
      Odd genetics

      GEN 30:39 And the flocks conceived before the rods, and brought forth cattle ringstraked, speckled, and spotted.
      The shape of the earth

      ISA 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

      MAT 4:8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;

      Astronomical bodies are spherical, and you cannot see the entire exterior surface from anyplace. The kingdoms of Egypt, China, Greece, Crete, sections of Asia Minor, India, Maya (in Mexico), Carthage (North Africa), Rome (Italy), Korea, and other settlements from these kingdoms of the world were widely distributed.
      Snakes, while built low, do not eat dirt

      GEN 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
      Earth supported?

      JOB 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.

      JOB 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
      Heaven supported too

      JOB 26:11 The pillars of heaven tremble and are astonished at his reproof.
      The hydrological cycle

      ECC 1:7 All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full; unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again.

      JOB 38:22 Hast thou entered into the treasures of the snow? or hast thou seen the treasures of the hail,

      Storehouses are not part of the cycle
      Order of creation

      Here is the order in the first (Genesis 1), the Priestly tradition:

      Day 1: Sky, Earth, light
      Day 2: Water, both in ocean basins and above the sky(!)
      Day 3: Plants
      Day 4: Sun, Moon, stars (as calendrical and navigational aids)
      Day 5: Sea monsters (whales), fish, birds, land animals, creepy-crawlies (reptiles, insects, etc.)
      Day 6: Humans (apparently both sexes at the same time)
      Day 7: Nothing (the Gods took the first day off anyone ever did)

      Note that there are “days,” “evenings,” and “mornings” before the Sun was created. Here, the Deity is referred to as “Elohim,” which is a plural, thus the literal translation, “the Gods.” In this tale, the Gods seem satisfied with what they have done, saying after each step that “it was good.”

      The second one (Genesis 2), the Yahwist tradition, goes:

      Earth and heavens (misty)
      Adam, the first man (on a desolate Earth)
      Plants
      Animals
      Eve, the first woman (from Adam’s rib)

      How orderly were things created?
      #1: Step-by-step. The only discrepancy is that there is no Sun or Moon or stars on the first three “days.”
      #2: God fixes things up as he goes. The first man is lonely, and is not satisfied with animals. God finally creates a woman for him. (funny thing that an omniscient god would forget things)

      How satisfied with creation was he?
      #1: God says “it was good” after each of his labors, and rests on the seventh day, evidently very satisfied.
      #2: God has to fix up his creation as he goes, and he would certainly not be very satisfied with the disobedience of that primordial couple. (funny thing that an omniscient god would forget things)
      Moses’ personality

      NUM 12:3: “Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the fact of the earth.”

      NUM 31:14, 17, 18: “And Moses was wroth…And Moses said unto them, “Have ye saved all the women alive? … Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman, … But all the women children … keep alive for yourselves.”
      Righteous live?

      PSA 92:12: “The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree.”

      ISA 57:1: “The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart.”

      ACT 1:18: “Now this man (Judas) purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out.”

      MAT 27:5-7: “And he (Judas) cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself. And the chief priests…bought with them the potter’s field.”
      Jesus’ first sermon plain or mount?

      MAT 5:1,2: “And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him: And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying….”

      LUK 6:17,20: “And he came down with them, and stood in the plain, and the company of his disciples, and a great multitude of people…came to hear him.. And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples and said…”
      Jesus’ last words

      MAT 27:46,50: “And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?” that is to say, “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?” …Jesus, when he cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.”

      LUK 23:46: “And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, “Father, unto thy hands I commend my spirit:” and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.”

      JOH 19:30: “When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, “It is finished:” and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.”
      Years of famine

      II SAMUEL 24:13: So God came to David, and told him, and said unto him, shall SEVEN YEARS OF FAMINE come unto thee in thy land? or will thou flee three months before thine enemies, while they pursue. thee?

      I CHRONICLES 21:11: SO God came to David, and said unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Choose thee. Either THREE YEARS OF FAMINE or three months to be destroyed before thy foes, while that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee;
      Moved David to anger?

      II SAMUEL 24: And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

      I CHRONICLES 21: And SATAN stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.
      The GENEALOGY OF JESUS?

      In two places in the New Testament the genealogy of Jesus son of Mary is mentioned. MAT 1:6-16 and LUK 3:23-31. Each gives the ancestors of Joseph the CLAIMED husband of Mary and Step father of Jesus. The first one starts from Abraham(verse 2) all the way down to Jesus. The second one from Jesus all the way back to Adam. The only common name to these two lists between David and Jesus is JOSEPH, How can this be true? and also How can Jesus have a genealogy when all Muslims and most Christians believe that Jesus had/has no father.
      God be seen?

      EXO 24:9,10; AMO 9:1; GEN 26:2; and JOH 14:9
      God CAN be seen:
      “And I will take away my hand, and thou shalt see my backparts.” (EXO 33:23)
      “And the Lord spake to Moses face to face, as a man speaketh to his friend.” (EXO 33:11)
      “For I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.” (GEN 32:30)

      God CANNOT be seen:
      “No man hath seen God at any time.” (JOH 1:18)
      “And he said, Thou canst not see my face; for there shall no man see me and live.” (EXO 33:20)
      “Whom no man hath seen nor can see.” (1TIM 6:16)
      CRUEL, UNMERCIFUL, DESTRUCTIVE, and FEROCIOUS or KIND, MERCIFUL, and GOOD:

      “I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy.” (JER 13:14) “Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not, but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling.”

      “The Lord is very pitiful and of tender mercy.” (JAS 5:11)
      “For his mercy endureth forever.” (1CH 16:34)
      “The Lord is good to all, and his tender mercies are over all his works.” (PSA 145:9)
      “God is love.” (1JO 4:16)
      Tempts?

      “And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham.” (GEN 22:1)

      “Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God; for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man.” (JAS 1:13)
      Judas died how?

      “And he cast down the pieces of silver into the temple and departed, and went out and hanged himself.” (MAT 27:5)

      “And falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all of his bowels gushed out.” (ACT 1:18)
      Ascend to heaven

      “And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.” (2KI 2:11)

      “No man hath ascended up to heaven but he that came down from heaven, … the Son of Man.” (JOH 3:13)
      What was Jesus’ prediction regarding Peter’s denial?

      Before the cock crow – MAT 26:34

      Before the cock crow twice – MAR 14:30
      How many times did the cock crow?

      MAR 14:72 And the second time the cock crew. And Peter called to mind the word that Jesus said unto him, Before the cock crow twice, thou shalt deny me thrice. And when he thought thereon, he wept.

      MAT 26:74 Then began he to curse and to swear, saying, I know not the man. And immediately the cock crew.
      MAT 26:75 And Peter remembered the word of Jesus, which said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice. And he went out, and wept bitterly.

      LUK 22:60 And Peter said, Man, I know not what thou sayest. And immediately, while he yet spake, the cock crew.
      LUK 22:61 And the Lord turned, and looked upon Peter. And Peter remembered the word of the Lord, how he had said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice.

      JOH 13:38 Jesus answered him, Wilt thou lay down thy life for my sake? Verily, verily, I say unto thee, The cock shall not crow, still thou hast denied me thrice.

      JOH 18:27 Peter then denied again: and immediately the cock crew.
      How many beatitudes in the Sermon on the Mount

      MAT 5:3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
      MAT 5:4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
      MAT 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
      MAT 5:6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
      MAT 5:7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
      MAT 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
      MAT 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
      MAT 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness’ sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
      MAT 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

      LUK 6:20 And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples, and said, Blessed be ye poor: for yours is the kingdom of God.
      LUK 6:21 Blessed are ye that hunger now: for ye shall be filled. Blessed are ye that weep now: for ye shall laugh.
      LUK 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man’s sake.
      LUK 6:23 Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.
      Does every man sin?

      1KI 8:46 If they sin against thee, (for there is no man that sinneth not,) and thou be angry with them, and deliver them to the enemy, so that they carry them away captives unto the land of the enemy, far or near;

      2CH 6:36 If they sin against thee, (for there is no man which sinneth not,) and thou be angry with them, and deliver them over before their enemies, and they carry them away captives unto a land far off or near;

      PRO 20:9 Who can say, I have made my heart clean, I am pure from my sin?

      ECC 7:20 For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.

      JO1 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
      JO1 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
      JO1 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

      JO1 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
      Who bought potter’s field

      ACT 1:18 Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out.
      ACT 1:19 And it was known unto all the dwellers at Jerusalem; insomuch as that field is called in their proper tongue, Aceldama, that is to say, The field of blood.

      MAT 27:6 And the chief priests took the silver pieces, and said, It is not lawful for to put them into the treasury, because it is the price of blood.
      MAT 27:7 And they took counsel, and bought with them the potter’s field, to bury strangers in.
      MAT 27:8 Wherefore that field was called, The field of blood, unto this day.
      Who prophesied the potter’s field?

      MAT 27:9-10 (mentions Jeremy but no such verse in Jeremiah) is in Zechariah 11:12-13
      Who bears guilt?

      GAL 6:2 Bear ye one another’s burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

      GAL 6:5 For every man shall bear his own burden.
      Do you answer a fool?

      PRO 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

      PRO 26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
      How many children did Michal, the daughter of Saul, have?

      2SA 6:23 Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child unto the day of her death.

      2SA 21:8 But the king took the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bare unto Saul, Armoni and Mephibosheth; and the five sons of Michal the daughter of Saul, whom she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzillai the Meholathite:
      How old was Jehoiachin when he began to reign?

      2KI 24:8 Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. And his mother’s name was Nehushta, the daughter of Elnathan of Jerusalem.

      2CH 36:9 Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem: and he did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD.
      Marriage?

      Proverbs 18:22
      1 Corinthians 7 (whole book. See 1,2,27,39,40)
      Did those with Saul/Paul at his conversion hear a voice?

      ACT 9:7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.

      ACT 22:9 And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.
      Where was Jesus three days after his baptism?

      MAR 1:12 And immediately the spirit driveth him into the wilderness.

      JOH 1:35 Again the next day after John stood, and two of his disciples;

      (various traipsings)
      How many apostles were in office between the resurrection and ascension?

      1 Corinthians 15:5 (12)
      MAT 27:3-5 (minus one from 12)
      ACT 1:9-26 (Mathias not elected until after resurrection)

      MAT 28:16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them.
      Judging

      1 Cor 2:15 “The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man’s judgment:” (NIV)

      1 Cor 4:5 “Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait till the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men’s hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God.”
      Good deeds

      Matt 5:16 “In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven.” (NIV)

      Matt 6:3-4 “But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.” (NIV)
      For or against?

      MAT 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.
      (default is against)

      MAR 9:40 For he that is not against us is on our part.
      (default is for)

      LUK 9:50 And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.
      (default is for)
      Whom did they see at the tomb?

      MAT 28:2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
      MAT 28:3 His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow:
      MAT 28:4 And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men.
      MAT 28:5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.

      MAR 16:5 And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted.

      LUK 24:4 And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments:

      JOH 20:12 And seeth two angels in white sitting, the one at the head, and the other at the feet, where the body of Jesus had lain.
      God change?

      MAL 3:6
      JAS 1:17
      1SA 15:29
      JON 3:10
      GEN 6:6
      Destruction of cities (what said was jeremiah was zechariah)

      MAT 27:9 Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet, saying, And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of him that was valued, whom they of the children of Israel did value;

      ZEC 11:11-13 (Note: There is nothing in Jeremiah remotely like this.)
      Who’s sepulchers

      ACT 7:16
      GEN 23:17,18
      Strong drink?

      PRO 31:6,7
      JOH 2:11-11
      When second coming?

      MAT 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

      MAR 13:30 Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.

      LUK 21:32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.

      (See also 1TH 4:15-18)
      Solomon’s overseers

      1KI 9:23 550
      2CH 8:10 250
      The mother of Abijah:

      2CH 11:20 Maachah the daughter of Absalom

      2CH 13:2 Michaiah the daughter of Uriel
      When did Baasha die?

      1KI 16:6-8 26th year of the reign of Asa

      2CH 16:1 36th year of the reign of Asa
      How old was Ahaziah when he began to reign?

      2KI 8:26 22

      2CH 22:2 42
      The differences in the census figures of Ezra and Nehemiah.
      What was the color of the robe placed on Jesus during his trial?

      MAT 27:28 scarlet

      JOH 19:2 purple
      What did they give him to drink?

      MAT 27:34 vinegar

      MAR 15:23 wine with myrrh
      How long was Jesus in the tomb?

      Depends where you look; MAT 12:40 gives Jesus prophesying that he will spend “three days and three nights in the heart of the earth,” and MAR 10:34 has “after three days (meta treis emeras) he will rise again.” As far as I can see from a quick look, the prophecies have “after three days,” but the post-Resurrection narratives have “on the third day.”

  7. I hope to hear your response soon.

    Thanks.

    • [defenderben] says:

      Nawalan ako ng gana nang hindi mo sinagot iyong tanong ko sa iyo tungkol sa sulat(2x) ng punto por punto. Kaya parang pinabayaan ko na muna ito. Anyway I’m back.

    • NAIPAKITA KO nang MALI ang mga UNAWA NINYO sa mga TALATA ng BIBLE.

      WALANG CONTRADICTION sa BIBLE. MALI LANG ang UNAWA NINYO.

      Usually ay OUT OF CONTEXT ang INYONG PAGBASA at PAG-UNAWA.

      At KAYA DINADAMIHAN NINYO ang POST ay dahil ALAM NINYO na MASASAGOT LAHAT YAN. UMAASA na lang KAYO na MAY ISA o DALAWA na MAKAKALUSOT sa mga MALING BINTANG na IBINABATO sa BIBLIA.

      Kung GUSTO MO ay PUMILI KA ng TATLO sa INAAKALA MO ay PINAKAMATINDING “CONTRADICTION” sa BIBLE at IPAKIKITA KO na HINDI yan KONTRA-KONTRA.

      ON the OTHER HAND, Yung IILAN na IBINIBIGAY NAMIN na KONTRA-KONTRA sa QURAN na ay HINDI NINYO MASAGOT. Kasi nga ay HINDI MATUTUTULAN ang mga COUNTRADICTION diyan.

      Please take the CHALLENGE. CHOOSE THREE SUPPOSED STRONG CONTRADICTIONS IN THE BIBLE and I WILL PROVE that THERE ARE NO CONTRADICTIONS in them.

      • [defenderben] says:

        Hay naku . . . Sapat na sa akin ang mga ibinigay ko.
        Share ko lang pala sa iyo ang akda ng isa sa aming mga kapatid:

        – start –

        Deuteronomy 4:2 clearly declares that the Bible is corrupt! Also, what does the Noble Quran say about the Bible’s Law!

        The sections of this article are:

        1- Deuteronomy 4:2 and the categories of the Bible.

        (a)- Deuteronomy 4:2 VS. the Bible!

        – Few Examples from among literally 1000s of man-made lies in the Bible.

        (b)- Jeremiah 8:8 confirms Deuteronomy 4:2!

        2- The Noble Quran’s Claims on the Bible’s Laws.

        (a)- The bibles are corrupt.
        (b)- The Jews and Christians need to follow the “Law”.
        (c)- The “Book” was only given to Moses and not to any other Prophet, and the only book that was “inherited” (as the Law) to the People of Israel! Allah Almighty even called it كتاب موسى (Book of Moses) in the Noble Quran! pulsar.gif (2171 bytes)

        (d)- The modern-day New Testaments are all corrupt.
        (e)- Even Jesus wasn’t given the “Book”!

        (f )- So what Book is the “People of the Book’s”? pulsar.gif (2171 bytes)

        – The People of Moses’ Dhikr are the People of the Book!

        3- Conclusion.

        1- Deuteronomy 4:2 and the categories of the Bible:

        Christians are often quick to tell you that their modern-day “Bible” (different quantity of books and gospels, and different quantity of verses exist between bibles) is the “true living word of God.” This is despite the fact that whatever bible we’re confronted with, we can easily find countless contradictions between verses and contradictions even with history! Not only that, but ironically, even the Bible’s own theologians admit that the bible is corrupt and was written by “mysterious” people. Not only that, but they also declare that the bible(s) contain fictions, fairy tales and fables:
        The Christian and Bible theologians call them “fictions that exist in the Bible”!

        The Christian and Bible theologians say “The original manuscripts had been lost”!

        The Christian and Bible theologians call them “fairy tales and fables in the Bible”!

        Anyway, it is important for the reader to not fall into the tricks and deception of Jews and Christians, because the Bible’s (any version) text is categorized differently. It can not all be lumped up into one big book and treat all verses and texts equally as the deceivers and liars do today! The following verses clearly prove this:

        Deuteronomy 4:2
        Do not add to what I command you and do not subtract from it, but keep the commands of the Lord your God that I give you.

        Those who are familiar with the Bible (any modern-day bible) know that it is divided into the following categories:

        1- The Torah. Also known as the five books of Moses. They are: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy.

        Note: I finished going through the entire collection of “Moses’ five books” and produced a rough draft article documenting the entire Mosaic Law (Thikr or Dhikr in Islam) containing all of the direct Commands that came down from Allah Almighty to Prophet Moses in the 5 books of Moses was added.

        2- The Prophets. These are the remaining books of the Old Testament. Their quantity varies between bible to bible, and the quantity of verses in even the common books also vary between bible to bible.

        3- The New Testament. This also has sub-categories in it such as (1) the four gospels (Mark, John, Luke and Matthew); (2) the Acts of the Apostles; (3) Pauline Epistles; (4) Epistle of the Hebrews; (5) General Epistles; (6) Revelation. The quantity of verses in the four gospels varies between bible to bible, and the quantity of the books in points 2, 3, 4 and 5 also vary between bible to bible.

        Please visit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible for more details.

        Also, visit Contradictions and History of Corruption in the Bible to see the differences between the bibles.

        Also, Just who were the original authors of the Bible? to see quotes from the NIV and KJV Bible’s theologians admitting that the bible is corrupt. They also brought into question many verses in common books.

        (a)- Deuteronomy 4:2 VS. the Bible!

        Now in regards to Deuteronomy 4:2 above, it is important to know that the TEXT that exist in the “Torah” (Moses’ five books) is also divided into two categories:

        1- Direct Command from GOD Almighty, such as “Thus says the LORD….” and “The GOD of Israel says….”

        Sam Shamoun agreeing with this point:

        Even the extremely foul-mouthed polytheist trinitarian pagan, Sam Shamoun, in his ludicrous debate on the fundamentals of trinity with another trinitarian, Craig Winn, on how to define trinity, had this to say about the Bible:

        Now if you are saying that we do not find any book or passage saying
        that the entire New Testament canon is inspired, that argument would also be true of the Old Testament. We do not have any specific or explicit statement in either sections telling us the exact length of the OT, nor do all the books of the OT begin with “Thus saith the Lord,” or “The Word of the Lord came to such and such” etc.

        So even the Jews and Christians deep inside themselves recognize the corruption of their bible and the difference between the direct Commands that came from GOD Almighty VS. the man-made lies, corruption and alterations that exist throughout the bible from false historical stories and contradicting accounts.

        2- General text that was written by mysterious men, including writing about how Moses died and got buried in the books of Moses himself! Obviously, Moses would not have been able to write about himself after he died.

        Deuteronomy 4:2 falls under the first category, because it was a direct Command from GOD Almighty:

        Deuteronomy 4:2
        Do not add to what I command you and do not subtract from it, but keep the commands of the Lord your God that I give you.

        When GOD Almighty clearly Commanded the followers of His Holy Words to not add anything nor subtract anything from His Words and/or mix them up with man-made corrupt words, then this without any doubt or dispute proves that Deuteronomy 4:2 is indeed a clear-cut proof that the Bible is indeed a corrupt book that is filled with man’s lies and alterations in it!

        Few Examples from among literally 1000s of man-made lies in the Bible:

        1- Paul fighting with the disciples:

        “When Peter came to Antioch, I [Paul] opposed him to his face, because he was clearly in the wrong. Before certain men came from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles. But when they arrived, he began to draw back and separate himself from the Gentiles because he [Peter] was afraid of those who belonged to the circumcision group. (The NIV Bible, Galatians: 2:11-12)”

        So if GOD Almighty spoke His Divine Words through the mouths of the disciples, then was GOD Almighty *fighting* with Himself?

        Please visit: The authors of the New Testament have conflicts (hostility) with each others.

        Paul Versus the Disciples.

        2- Paul talking about how he is wanting to “winter there”. Was his talk about his personal life, for instance, equivalent to GOD Almighty’s direct Commands in the Mosaic Law?

        3- The “fairy tales”, “fables” of the Bible. For those who might say that the stories of the disciples and Prophets should be included in the Bible and that they were “inspired”, I tell them:

        i- Please read Deuteronomy 4:2 again because it clearly commanded the Believers to not add or subtract anything from what GOD Almighty Said. You are certainly adding a ton of man-made material to GOD Almighty’s Words.

        ii- Also, please read Jeremiah 8:8 in the sub-section below and pay attention to its charge and warning about lies being added to the Law.

        iii- Who told you that these stories were “inspired” by GOD Almighty? GOD Almighty is not the author of contradictions, lies and confusions, because these stories contain countless contradictions in text (a book contradicting another in the bible), countless contradictions and conflicts with history and archeology, and many of them are outright lies because they never happened! Ironically, even the Christian and Bible theologians call them “fables” and “fictions” that exist in the Bible:

        The Christian and Bible theologians call them “fictions that exist in the Bible”!

        The Christian and Bible theologians say “The original manuscripts had been lost”!

        The Christian and Bible theologians call them “fairy tales and fables in the Bible”!

        Please visit: Contradictions and History of Corruption in the Bible for full proofs.

        Allah Almighty Said: “Do they not ponder on the Qur’an? Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found therein much discrepancy. (The Noble Quran, 4:82)”

        Indeed, because the Bible is not the Word of GOD Almighty, it contains “much discrepancy” in it.

        The bottom line is that the original and real Bible of today should’ve been a much smaller book than what it is now. But the fact that its laws and integrity are all mixed up together and compromised proves that the book or books are indeed corrupt. So for one to lump up the bibles and their many problems and say that his/her “Bible” (his/her bible among many different bibles) is “the true living word of GOD Almighty” would be indeed a very ridiculous and absurd statement.

        (b)- Jeremiah 8:8 confirms Deuteronomy 4:2!

        “How can you say, ‘We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us’? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a LIE. (From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)”

        As the charge and warning of false words/verses being ascribed to GOD Almighty in Deuteronomy 4:2 apply to Jeremiah 8:8 itself, but nonetheless, the latter verse certainly confirms the corruption of the Bible, because even the Mosaic Law got corrupt by getting mixed up with false verses (teachings and commandments of men) from the scribes and other alterations, which ultimately resulted in having all of them being put together into one big corrupt book called “the bible(s).”

        So while Jeremiah 8:8 is not a Divine Noble Verse from GOD Almighty, but it nonetheless bears witness that false revelations had been inserted into the bibles, with all of the latters’ different and variant false books and gospels.

        Please visit: Jeremiah 8:8 proves Historical Corruption in the Bible – by John McCarthy. Got detailed archeological evidence.

        The Argument of Jeremiah 8:8 Still Standing!

        2- The Noble Quran’s Claims on the Bible’s Laws:

        Let us look at what Allah Almighty in the Noble Quran said about the Bibles of today:

        (a)- The Bibles are corrupt:

        “That they rejected Faith; That they uttered against Mary A grave false charge; That they said (in boast): ‘We killed Christ Jesus The son of Mary, The Messenger of Allah.’ But they killed him not, Nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not. Nay, Allah raised him up Unto Himself; and Allah Is Exalted in Power, Wise. And there is none of the people of the book (Jews and Christians) But must believe in him (Jesus) Before his death; And on the Day of Judgment He (Jesus) will be a witness Against them. (The Noble Quran, 4:156-159)”

        “Know they not Allah Knoweth what they conceal and what they reveal? And there are among them illiterates, who know not the Book (i.e., the Bible), but (see therein their own) desires, and they do nothing but conjecture. Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say: ‘This is from Allah,’ To traffic with it for a miserable price! Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby. (The Noble Quran, 2:77-79)”

        “O Apostle! let not those grieve thee, who race each other into unbelief: (whether it be) among those who say “We believe” with their lips but whose hearts have no faith; or it be among the Jews,- men who will listen to any lie,- will listen even to others who have never so much as come to thee. They change the words from their (right) times and places: they say, ‘If ye are given this, take it, but if not, beware!’ If any one’s trial is intended by God, thou hast no authority in the least for him against God. For such – it is not God’s will to purify their hearts. For them there is disgrace in this world, and in the Hereafter a heavy punishment. (The Noble Quran, 5:41)”

        (b)- The Jews and Christians need to follow the “Law”:
        Noble Verse(s) 6:89-6:90
        Arabic (from right to left):

        ‏6:89 اولئك الذين اتيناهم الكتاب والحكم والنبوة فان يكفر بها هؤلاء فقد وكلنا بها قوما ليسوا بها بكافرين
        ‏6:90 اولئك الذين هدى الله فبهداهم اقتده قل لااسألكم عليه اجرا ان هو الا ذكرى للعالمين

        Muhammad Al-Hilali & Muhsin Khan:
        [006:089] They are those whom We gave the Book, AlHukm (understanding of the religious laws), and Prophethood. But if these disbelieve therein (the Book, AlHukm and Prophethood), then, indeed We have entrusted it to a people (such as the Companions of Prophet Muhammad SAW) who are not disbelievers therein.

        [006:090] They are those whom Allah had guided. So follow their guidance. Say: “No reward I ask of you for this (the Quran). It is only a reminder for the Alameen (mankind and jinns).”

        Noble Verse(s) 10:94-10:95
        Arabic (from right to left):

        ‏10:94 فان كنت في شك مما انزلنا اليك فسأل الذين يقرؤون الكتاب من قبلك لقد جاءك الحق من ربك فلا تكونن من الممترين
        ‏10:95 ولاتكونن من الذين كذبوا بايات الله فتكون من الخاسرين

        Muhammad Al-Hilali & Muhsin Khan:
        [010:094] So if you are in doubt concerning that which We have revealed unto you, then ask those who are reading the Book before you. Verily, the truth has come to you from your Lord. So be not of those who doubt (it).

        [010:095] And be not one of those who belie the Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) of Allah, for then you shall be one of the losers.

        So how are we exactly supposed to read this? It’s very clear and very simple, and Deuteronomy 4:2 above gives the greatest back up to the Noble Quran’s Divine Claims:

        Deuteronomy 4:2
        Do not add to what I command you and do not subtract from it, but keep the commands of the Lord your God that I give you.

        1- The Bibles’ books and gospels are corrupt and man-made.

        2- The Mosaic Law is the closest book to the Truth!

        This is clearly confirmed in the following Noble Verses:

        (c)- The “Book” was only given to Moses and not to any other Prophet, and the only book that was “inherited” (as the Law) to the People of Israel!

        The “Book” الكتاب (al-kitab) is the book that was sent to Moses:
        “We did aforetime give Moses the (Book of) Guidance, and We gave the book in inheritance to the Children of Israel,- (The Noble Quran, 40:53)”

        ‏40:53 ولقد اتينا موسى الهدى واورثنا بني اسرائيل الكتاب

        “We gave Moses the Book (al-kitab) and followed him up with a succession of apostles; We gave Jesus the son of Mary Clear (Signs) and strengthened him with the holy spirit. Is it that whenever there comes to you an apostle with what ye yourselves desire not, ye are puffed up with pride?- Some ye called impostors, and others ye slay! (The Noble Quran, 2:87)”

        “Can they be (like) those who accept a Clear (Sign) from their Lord, and whom a witness from Himself doth teach, as did the Book of Moses كتاب موسى before it,- a guide and a mercy? They believe therein; but those of the Sects that reject it,- the Fire will be their promised meeting-place. Be not then in doubt thereon: for it is the truth from thy Lord: yet many among men do not believe! (The Noble Quran, 11:17)”

        “And before this, was the Book of Moses كتاب موسى as a guide and a mercy: And this Book confirms (it) in the Arabic tongue; to admonish the unjust, and as Glad Tidings to those who do right. (The Noble Quran, 46:12)”

        Noble Verse(s) 46:29-46:30
        Yusuf Ali:

        [046:029] Behold, We turned towards thee a company of Jinns (quietly) listening to the Quran: when they stood in the presence thereof, they said, “Listen in silence!” When the (reading) was finished, they returned to their people, to warn (them of their sins).
        [046:030] They said, “O our people! We have heard a Book revealed after Moses, confirming what came before it: it guides (men) to the Truth and to a Straight Path.

        Arabic (from right to left):
        ‏46:29 واذ صرفنا اليك نفرا من الجن يستمعون القران فلما حضروه قالوا انصتوا فلما قضي ولوا الى قومهم منذرين

        ‏46:30 قالوا ياقومنا انا سمعنا كتابا انزل من بعد موسى مصدقا لما بين يديه يهدي الى الحق والى طريق مستقيم

        Notice that the “Book” only belongs to Prophet Moses, peace be upon him, and not to the Prophets that came after him, except for the Noble Quran which was the “Book” (the Law for the Muslims) sent to Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him:
        “It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Book (al-kitab), confirming what went before it; and He sent down the Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this, as a guide to mankind, and He sent down the criterion (of judgment be tween right and wrong). (The Noble Quran, 3:3)”

        “He it is Who has sent down to thee the Book (al-kitab): In it are verses basic or fundamental (of established meaning); they are the foundation of the Book: others are allegorical. But those in whose hearts is perversity follow the part thereof that is a llegorical, seeking discord, and searching for its hidden meanings, but no one knows its hidden meanings except God. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: “We believe in the Book; the whole of it is from our Lord:” and none will grasp the Message except men of understanding. (The Noble Quran, 3:7)”

        Continuing on….

        “Moreover, We gave Moses the Book (al-kitab), completing (Our favour) to those who would do right, and explaining all things in detail,- and a guide and a mercy, that they might believe in the meeting with their Lord. (The Noble Quran, 6:154)”

        “We certainly gave the Book to Moses, but differences arose therein: had it not been that a word had gone forth before from thy Lord, the matter would have been decided between them, but they are in suspicious doubt concerning it. (The Noble Quran, 11:110)”
        “We gave Moses the Book, and made it a Guide to the Children of Israel, (commanding): “Take not other than Me as Disposer of (your) affairs.” (The Noble Quran, 17:2)”

        “And We gave Moses the Book, in order that they might receive guidance. (The Noble Quran, 23:49)”
        “(Before this,) We sent Moses The Book, and appointed his brother Aaron with him as minister; (The Noble Quran, 25:35)”

        “We did reveal to Moses the Book after We had destroyed the earlier generations, (to give) Insight to men, and guidance and Mercy, that they might receive admonition. (The Noble Quran, 28:43)”
        “We did indeed aforetime give the Book to Moses: be not then in doubt of its reaching (thee): and We made it a guide to the Children of Israel. (The Noble Quran, 32:23)”

        “We certainly gave Moses the Book aforetime: but disputes arose therein. Had it not been for a Word that went forth before from thy Lord, (their differences) would have been settled between them: but they remained in suspicious disquieting doubt thereon. (The Noble Quran, 41:45)”
        “Nay, is he not acquainted with what is in the Books of Moses- (The Noble Quran, 53:36)”

        Noble Verse(s) 2:53
        Yusuf Ali:

        [002:053] And remember We gave Moses the Scripture and the Criterion (Between right and wrong): There was a chance for you to be guided aright.

        Arabic (from right to left):
        ‏2:53 واذ اتينا موسى الكتاب والفرقان لعلكم تهتدون

        Noble Verse(s) 21:48
        Yusuf Ali:

        [021:048] In the past We granted to Moses and Aaron the criterion (for judgment), and a Light and a Message (Thikr) for those who would do right,-

        Arabic (from right to left):
        ‏21:48 ولقد اتينا موسى وهارون الفرقان وضياء وذكرا للمتقين

        Aaron, however, was not the main Prophet. He was Moses’ brother and his helper because Moses had speech disabilities:
        Noble Verse(s) 20:20-36:

        Yusuf Ali:
        [020:020] He threw it, and behold! It was a snake, active in motion.

        [020:021] (God) said, “Seize it, and fear not: We shall return it at once to its former condition”..
        [020:022] “Now draw thy hand close to thy side: It shall come forth white (and shining), without harm (or stain),- as another Sign,-

        [020:023] “In order that We may show thee (two) of our Greater Signs.
        [020:024] “Go thou to Pharaoh, for he has indeed transgressed all bounds.”

        [020:025] (Moses) said: “O my Lord! expand me my breast;
        [020:026] “Ease my task for me;

        [020:027] “And remove the impediment from my speech,
        [020:028] “So they may understand what I say:

        [020:029] “And give me a Minister from my family,
        [020:030] “Aaron, my brother;

        [020:031] “Add to my strength through him,
        [020:032] “And make him share my task:

        [020:033] “That we may celebrate Thy praise without stint,
        [020:034] “And remember Thee without stint:

        [020:035] “For Thou art He that (ever) regardeth us.”
        [020:036] (God) said: “Granted is thy prayer, O Moses!”

        Arabic (from right to left):
        ‏20:20 فالقاها فاذا هي حية تسعى

        ‏20:21 قال خذها ولاتخف سنعيدها سيرتها الاولى
        ‏20:22 واضمم يدك الى جناحك تخرج بيضاء من غير سوء اية اخرى

        ‏20:23 لنريك من اياتنا الكبرى
        ‏20:24 اذهب الى فرعون انه طغى

        ‏20:25 قال رب اشرح لي صدري
        ‏20:26 ويسر لي امري

        ‏20:27 واحلل عقدة من لساني
        ‏20:28 يفقهوا قولي

        ‏20:29 واجعل لي وزيرا من اهلي
        ‏20:30 هارون اخي

        ‏20:31 اشدد به ازري
        ‏20:32 واشركه في امري

        ‏20:33 كي نسبحك كثيرا
        ‏20:34 ونذكرك كثيرا

        ‏20:35 انك كنت بنا بصيرا
        ‏20:36 قال قد اوتيت سؤلك ياموسى

        This is further proven in the following Noble Verses:

        “Of the people of Moses there is a section who guide and do justice in the light of truth. (The Noble Quran, 7:159)”
        “We did aforetime give Moses the (Book of) Guidance, and We gave the book in inheritance to the Children of Israel,- (The Noble Quran, 40:53)”

        ‏40:53 ولقد اتينا موسى الهدى واورثنا بني اسرائيل الكتاب

        “We gave Moses the Book (al-kitab) and followed him up with a succession of apostles; We gave Jesus the son of Mary Clear (Signs) and strengthened him with the holy spirit. Is it that whenever there comes to you an apostle with what ye yourselves desire not, ye are puffed up with pride?- Some ye called impostors, and others ye slay! (The Noble Quran, 2:87)”

        “Can they be (like) those who accept a Clear (Sign) from their Lord, and whom a witness from Himself doth teach, as did the Book of Moses كتاب موسى before it,- a guide and a mercy? They believe therein; but those of the Sects that reject it,- the Fire will be their promised meeting-place. Be not then in doubt thereon: for it is the truth from thy Lord: yet many among men do not believe! (The Noble Quran, 11:17)”

        “And before this, was the Book of Moses كتاب موسى as a guide and a mercy: And this Book confirms (it) in the Arabic tongue; to admonish the unjust, and as Glad Tidings to those who do right. (The Noble Quran, 46:12)”

        And the other Noble Verses mentioned above and others that are mentioned in the Noble Quran.

        (d)- The modern-day New Testaments are all corrupt:

        “That they rejected Faith; That they uttered against Mary A grave false charge; That they said (in boast): ‘We killed Christ Jesus The son of Mary, The Messenger of Allah.’ But they killed him not, Nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not. Nay, Allah raised him up Unto Himself; and Allah Is Exalted in Power, Wise. And there is none of the people of the book (Jews and Christians) But must believe in him (Jesus) Before his death; And on the Day of Judgment He (Jesus) will be a witness Against them. (The Noble Quran, 4:156-159)”

        So the “Book” that Allah Almighty Commanded the Jews and Christians to follow in the Noble Quran is the Mosaic Law because not only the Noble Quran claims it, but also Deuteronomy 4:2 above clearly confirms it!

        (e)- Even Jesus wasn’t given the “Book”!

        Prophet Jesus, peace be upon him, was only given the “Injil”, which is Revelations or Inspirations that were sent down to him:

        “We gave Moses the Book and followed him up with a succession of apostles; We gave Jesus the son of Mary Clear (Signs) and strengthened him with the holy spirit. Is it that whenever there comes to you an apostle with what ye yourselves desire not, ye are puffed up with pride?- Some ye called impostors, and others ye slay! (The Noble Quran, 2:87)”

        ‏2:87 ولقد اتينا موسى الكتاب وقفينا من بعده بالرسل واتينا عيسى ابن مريم البينات وايدناه بروح القدس افكلما جاءكم رسول بما لاتهوى انفسكم استكبرتم ففريقا كذبتم وفريقا تقتلون

        “Then, in their wake, We followed them up with (others of) Our apostles: We sent after them Jesus the son of Mary, and bestowed on him the Gospel (Injil); and We ordained in the hearts of those who followed him Compassion and Mercy. But the Monasticism which they invented for themselves, We did not prescribe for them: (We commanded) only the seeking for the Good Pleasure of God; but that they did not foster as they should have done. Yet We bestowed, on those among them who believed, their (due) reward, but many of them are rebellious transgressors. (The Noble Quran, 57:27)”

        ‏57:27 ثم قفينا على اثارهم برسلنا وقفينا بعيسى ابن مريم واتيناه الانجيل وجعلنا في قلوب الذين اتبعوه رافة ورحمة ورهبانية ابتدعوها ماكتبناها عليهم الا ابتغاء رضوان الله فما رعوها حق رعايتها فاتينا الذين امنوا منهم اجرهم وكثير منهم فاسقون

        (f)- So what Book is the “People of the Book’s”?

        “Say: ‘O People of the Book (i.e., Jews and Christians)! Come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with Him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah.’ If then they turn back, say ye: ‘Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah’s Will).’ (The Noble Quran, 3:64)”

        The “People of the Book” (i.e., Jews and Christians) are the People of the Book of the Law and Thikr of Moses كتاب موسى:

        “Can they be (like) those who accept a Clear (Sign) from their Lord, and whom a witness from Himself doth teach, as did the Book of Moses كتاب موسى before it,- a guide and a mercy? They believe therein; but those of the Sects that reject it,- the Fire will be their promised meeting-place. Be not then in doubt thereon: for it is the truth from thy Lord: yet many among men do not believe! (The Noble Quran, 11:17)”

        “And before this, was the Book of Moses كتاب موسى as a guide and a mercy: And this Book confirms (it) in the Arabic tongue; to admonish the unjust, and as Glad Tidings to those who do right. (The Noble Quran, 46:12)”

        The People of Dhikr (Thikr) of Moses are the People of the Book!

        Allah Almighty called them the People of the Thikr and People of the Book. Therefore, the Moses’ Thikr is the Book of the People of the Book. Let us look at Noble Verses 21:48, 16:43-44, 21:7, 21:105, 3:58, 15:6, 15:9, 36:11, 38:1 and 68:51:

        Noble Verse(s) 21:48
        Yusuf Ali:

        [021:048] In the past We granted to Moses and Aaron the criterion (for judgment), and a Light and a Message (Thikr) for those who would do right,-

        Arabic (from right to left):
        ‏21:48 ولقد اتينا موسى وهارون الفرقان وضياء وذكرا للمتقين

        Again, Aaron, however, was not the main Prophet. He was Moses’ brother and his helper because Moses had speech disabilities:
        Noble Verse(s) 20:20-36:

        Yusuf Ali:
        [020:020] He threw it, and behold! It was a snake, active in motion.

        [020:021] (God) said, “Seize it, and fear not: We shall return it at once to its former condition”..
        [020:022] “Now draw thy hand close to thy side: It shall come forth white (and shining), without harm (or stain),- as another Sign,-

        [020:023] “In order that We may show thee (two) of our Greater Signs.
        [020:024] “Go thou to Pharaoh, for he has indeed transgressed all bounds.”

        [020:025] (Moses) said: “O my Lord! expand me my breast;
        [020:026] “Ease my task for me;

        [020:027] “And remove the impediment from my speech,
        [020:028] “So they may understand what I say:

        [020:029] “And give me a Minister from my family,
        [020:030] “Aaron, my brother;

        [020:031] “Add to my strength through him,
        [020:032] “And make him share my task:

        [020:033] “That we may celebrate Thy praise without stint,
        [020:034] “And remember Thee without stint:

        [020:035] “For Thou art He that (ever) regardeth us.”
        [020:036] (God) said: “Granted is thy prayer, O Moses!”

        Arabic (from right to left):
        ‏20:20 فالقاها فاذا هي حية تسعى

        ‏20:21 قال خذها ولاتخف سنعيدها سيرتها الاولى
        ‏20:22 واضمم يدك الى جناحك تخرج بيضاء من غير سوء اية اخرى

        ‏20:23 لنريك من اياتنا الكبرى
        ‏20:24 اذهب الى فرعون انه طغى

        ‏20:25 قال رب اشرح لي صدري
        ‏20:26 ويسر لي امري

        ‏20:27 واحلل عقدة من لساني
        ‏20:28 يفقهوا قولي

        ‏20:29 واجعل لي وزيرا من اهلي
        ‏20:30 هارون اخي

        ‏20:31 اشدد به ازري
        ‏20:32 واشركه في امري

        ‏20:33 كي نسبحك كثيرا
        ‏20:34 ونذكرك كثيرا

        ‏20:35 انك كنت بنا بصيرا
        ‏20:36 قال قد اوتيت سؤلك ياموسى

        This is further proven in the following Noble Verses:

        “Of the people of Moses there is a section who guide and do justice in the light of truth. (The Noble Quran, 7:159)”
        “We did aforetime give Moses the (Book of) Guidance, and We gave the book in inheritance to the Children of Israel,- (The Noble Quran, 40:53)”

        ‏40:53 ولقد اتينا موسى الهدى واورثنا بني اسرائيل الكتاب

        “We gave Moses the Book (al-kitab) and followed him up with a succession of apostles; We gave Jesus the son of Mary Clear (Signs) and strengthened him with the holy spirit. Is it that whenever there comes to you an apostle with what ye yourselves desire not, ye are puffed up with pride?- Some ye called impostors, and others ye slay! (The Noble Quran, 2:87)”

        “Can they be (like) those who accept a Clear (Sign) from their Lord, and whom a witness from Himself doth teach, as did the Book of Moses كتاب موسى before it,- a guide and a mercy? They believe therein; but those of the Sects that reject it,- the Fire will be their promised meeting-place. Be not then in doubt thereon: for it is the truth from thy Lord: yet many among men do not believe! (The Noble Quran, 11:17)”

        “And before this, was the Book of Moses كتاب موسى as a guide and a mercy: And this Book confirms (it) in the Arabic tongue; to admonish the unjust, and as Glad Tidings to those who do right. (The Noble Quran, 46:12)”

        And the other Noble Verses mentioned above and others that are mentioned in the Noble Quran.

        Furthermore, the Noble Quran further Says:

        – Ask the People of Thikr if you (Muhammad) know not.
        – We (Allah) have sent to you (Muhammad) the Thikr.
        Noble Verse(s) 16:43-16:44
        Arberry:

        [016:043] We sent not any before thee, except men to whom We revealed: ‘Question the people of the Remembrance (Thikr), if it should be that you do not know —
        [016:044] with the clear signs, and the Psalms; and We have sent down to thee the Remembrance (Thikr) that thou mayest make clear to mankind what was sent down to them; and so haply they will reflect.

        Arabic (from right to left):
        ‏16:43 وماارسلنا من قبلك الا رجالا نوحي اليهم فسألوا اهل الذكر ان كنتم لاتعلمون

        ‏16:44 بالبينات والزبر وانزلنا اليك الذكر لتبين للناس مانزل اليهم ولعلهم يتفكرون

        Noble Verse(s) 21:7
        Yusuf Ali:

        [021:007] Before thee, also, the apostles We sent were but men, to whom We granted inspiration: If ye realise this not, ask of those who possess the Message (Thikr).

        Arabic (from right to left):
        ‏21:7 وماارسلنا قبلك الا رجالا نوحي اليهم فسألوا اهل الذكر ان كنتم لاتعلمون

        – The Thikr of Prophet Moses came before the Psalm of Prophet David.
        Noble Verse(s) 21:105
        Yusuf Ali:

        [021:105] Before this We wrote in the Psalms, after the Message (Thikr given to Moses): My servants the righteous, shall inherit the earth.”

        Arabic (from right to left):
        ‏21:105 ولقد كتبنا في الزبور من بعد الذكر ان الارض يرثها عبادي الصالحون

        – Prophet Muhammad’s Thikr.
        Noble Verse(s) 3:58
        Yusuf Ali:

        [003:058] “This is what we rehearse unto thee of the Signs and the Message (Thikr) of Wisdom.”

        Arabic (from right to left):
        ‏3:58 ذلك نتلوه عليك من الايات والذكر الحكيم

        Noble Verse(s) 15:6
        Yusuf Ali:

        [015:006] They say: “O thou to whom the Message (Thikr) is being revealed! truly thou art mad (or possessed)!

        Arabic (from right to left):
        ‏15:6 وقالوا ياايها الذي نزل عليه الذكر انك لمجنون

        Noble Verse(s) 15:9
        Yusuf Ali:

        [015:009] We have, without doubt, sent down the Message (Thikr); and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption).

        Arabic (from right to left):
        ‏15:9 انا نحن نزلنا الذكر وانا له لحافظون

        Noble Verse(s) 36:11
        Yusuf Ali:

        [036:011] Thou canst but admonish such a one as follows the Message (Thikr) and fears the (Lord) Most Gracious, unseen: give such a one, therefore, good tidings, of Forgiveness and a Reward most generous.

        Arabic (from right to left):
        ‏36:11 انما تنذر من اتبع الذكر وخشي الرحمن بالغيب فبشره بمغفرة واجر كريم

        Noble Verse(s) 38:1
        Yusuf Ali:

        [038:001] Saad: By the Quran, Full of Admonition (Thikr): (This is the Truth).

        Arabic (from right to left):
        ‏38:1 ص والقران ذي الذكر

        Noble Verse(s) 68:51
        Yusuf Ali:

        [068:051] And the Unbelievers would almost trip thee up with their eyes when they hear the Message (Thikr); and they say: “Surely he is possessed!”

        Arabic (from right to left):
        ‏68:51 وان يكاد الذين كفروا ليزلقونك بابصارهم لما سمعوا الذكر ويقولون انه لمجنون

        There is no question that the following points are true:

        1- The Thikr came down to Prophets Moses and Muhammad, peace be upon them.

        2- The Jews and Christians were called “People of Book” and “People of Thikr”.

        Therefore, the People of the Book are the People of Moses’ Thikr. And again, the clear-cut proof and greatest back up for this is Deuteronomy 4:2:

        Deuteronomy 4:2
        Do not add to what I command you and do not subtract from it, but keep the commands of the Lord your God that I give you.

        Also, when one reads the Bible’s Old Testament, one would see that even in the Prophets’ books, all of their actions and laws did revolve around and come from the Mosaic Thikr (Law). Not only that, but they constantly made ample references to it as well, as shown in Jeremiah 8:8 above and many other verses. So even in the Bible, this point is thoroughly proven. Even Jesus Christ in the New Testament had this to say about the Mosaic Law:

        “Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. (Matthew 5:17-18)”

        Jesus, peace be upon him, said that every Law in the Law of Moses and every Prophecy that was made by the Prophets, peace be upon them, shall be fulfilled and completed. He did not come to abolish any of them.

        3- Conclusion:

        I believe that the following points had been clearly established throughout this article by Allah Almighty’s Grace, Mercy and Will:

        1- The modern-day bibles are all corrupt and filled with man-made lies and alterations.

        2- Deuteronomy 4:2 clearly and indisputably confirms that mixing up the Bible between GOD Almighty’s Divine Law and Revelations with man’s words is not acceptable.

        3- Allah Almighty in the Noble Quran never recognized Constantine’s “Bible” or any other “Bible” from among the many bibles out there as the Divine Truth.

        4- The Book of Moses كتاب موسى is the “Book” that Allah Almighty Commanded the Jews and Christians to follow in the Noble Quran, and it was the only Book that was “inherited” (as the Law) to the People of Israel.

        5- The “People of the Book” in the Noble Quran are the people who were Commanded by Allah Almighty to follow the Law/Book of Moses كتاب موسى , peace be upon him.

        6- The “People of the Book” were also called the “People of Moses’ Thikr.” Hence, the People of the Book are the People of the Mosaic Law (Thikr) الذكر.

        I just want to conclude this article by telling my Jewish, Christian and also Muslim readers that no one, who sincerely and truthfully follows the Mosaic Law’s Great 10 Commandments, which also exist in the Noble Quran, goes astray! Allah Almighty clearly said in the Noble Quran:

        “Of the people of Moses there is a section who guide and do justice in the light of truth. (The Noble Quran, 7:159)”

        “Not all of them are alike: Of the People of the Book [Jews and Christians] are a portion that stand (For the right): They rehearse the Signs of God all night long, and they prostrate themselves in adoration. They believe in God and the Last Day; they enjoin what is right, and forbid what is wrong; and they hasten (in emulation) in (all) good works: They are in the ranks of the righteous. (The Noble Quran, 3:113-114)”

        “And there are, certainly, among the People of the Book [Jews and Christians], those who believe in God, in the revelation to you, and in the revelation to them, bowing in humility to God: They will not sell the Signs of God for a miserable gain! For them is a reward with their Lord, and God is swift in account. (The Noble Quran, 3:199)”

        “As to those who hold fast by the Book and establish regular prayer,- never shall We suffer the reward of the righteous to perish. (The Noble Quran, 7:170)”

        Please visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/blessed_jesus.htm for more details.

        All Praise and Glory are due to Allah Almighty alone.

        Back to Is Muhammad a true Prophet? section.

        Sam Shamoun rebuttals section.

        Contradictions and History of Corruption in the Bible.

        Islam and the Noble Quran – Questions and Answers.

        Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him.

        Note: I finished going through the entire collection of “Moses’ five books” and produced a rough draft article documenting the entire Mosaic Law (Thikr or Dhikr in Islam) containing all of the direct Commands that came down from Allah Almighty to Prophet Moses in the 5 books of Moses was added.

        – end –

        PATALASTAS:

        So hindi nalang ako uli magbigay example ng contradictions, HINDI mo man din sasagutin. Baka maiinis pa ko if hindi masagot. Hindi mo pa din kasi sinasagot if “AKO BA ANG SUMULAT o HINDI?”

        – start again –

        Deuteronomy 31:25-29 where Moses peace be upon him predicted the corruption/tampering of the Law (Bible) after his death.

        Deuteronomy 31:25-29

        New International Version (NIV)
        25 he gave this command to the Levites who carried the ark of the covenant of the LORD: 26 “Take this Book of the Law and place it beside the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God. There it will remain as a witness against you. 27 For I know how rebellious and stiff-necked you are. If you have been rebellious against the LORD while I am still alive and with you, how much more will you rebel after I die! 28 Assemble before me all the elders of your tribes and all your officials, so that I can speak these words in their hearing and call the heavens and the earth to testify against them. 29 For I know that after my death you are sure to become utterly corrupt and to turn from the way I have commanded you. In days to come, disaster will fall on you because you will do evil in the sight of the LORD and arouse his anger by what your hands have made.”

        The Book of Moses predicted that the Law (Bible) will get corrupted. The Book of Jeremiah which came approximately 826 years after did indeed confirm this corruption.

        – end again –

  8. [defenderben] says:

    CENON BIBE:
    KAILANGAN po na MAY SAKSI na TOTOO KAYO at KAYO NGA ang SUMULAT sa AKIN.

    KUNG WALA e ANONG PROOF na TOTOO NGA KAYO? LALABAS e GAWA-GAWA LANG ng KUNG SINO ang SULAT na NAIPADALA sa AKIN. (March 7, 2012)

    Ang aking (defenderben) direktang sagot:

    Mula sa aking sinabi,

    “Kung ako ay sumulat sa iyo, mula dito sa amin at akin itong ipinadala sa isang postal service agency. At ang sulat ay dinala sa iyong bahay ng isang postman, TANONG: Ako ba ang may-ari ng sulat at ang mga salita’t diwa na napapaloob doon sulat o ang postman? Pakisagot lang po.”

    * Pansinin na gumamit ako ng salitang “KUNG” . . . hindi ibig sabihin noon na aktual na gagawin.
    * Maybe, you didn’t understand the context. Wew!
    * Sabi mo,

    “KAILANGAN po na MAY SAKSI na TOTOO KAYO at KAYO NGA ang SUMULAT sa AKIN.

    KUNG WALA e ANONG PROOF na TOTOO NGA KAYO? LALABAS e GAWA-GAWA LANG ng KUNG SINO ang SULAT na NAIPADALA sa AKIN.”

    eh ‘di lagyan ng saksi o mga saksi. Kung gusto mo, ikaw na din bahala kung sino siya o sinu-sino sila. PERO, mas may maganda akong ideya. GAWIN KAYA NATING IKAW DIN MISMO ANG SAKSI. MAGANDA NAMAN, ‘DI BA?

    Kung magkagayon, PALITAN NA DIN NATIN ANG ISTORYA NGUNIT HIDNI PINA PALITAN ANG PUNTONG TANONG. Something like this Cenon:

    Tayo ay sa isang lugar, na kung saan may medyo mahabang mesa at dalawang upuan sa magkabilang-dulo, kasama ng isa sa iyong naging sakristan. (Pansinin, tatlo tayo sa isang lugar na iyon). Ngayon, ako ay umupo sa isang selya na nasa isa sa magkabilabg-dulo ng mesa, ikaw ay aking inutusan pumunta malapit sa aking likuran, para maging saksi sa aking gagawin. Ako ay sumulat ng liham para sa iyo sa isang kapirasong papel. Pagkatapos, ikaw ay aking inutusan na umupo sa nalalabing selya sa kabila kong dulo. Aking inutusan ang isa sa iyong naging sakristan na iabot ang (aking) sulat sa iyo. Tumalima siya at iniabot sa iyo. Ito ay iyong kinuha at binasa.

    TANONG: Ako ba ang may-ari ng sulat, mga salita at diwa na nilalaman nito, OO o HINDI?

    _

    [Note: Kapag hindi mo pa ito sinagot, i assume na umiiwas ka or wala ka lang talagang kwentang kausap na pari o tao na katulad ng iba!]

    _

  9. [defenderben] says:

    CENON BIBE:
    Excuse me, Ben.

    What was your intention in reposting the article above by Sam Shamoun? Is it to show the contradictions in the Quran whether Muhammad saw Allah or not?

    Anyway, thanks. I hope you read it and saw the contradicting claims of Muslims in regard to your prophet seeing or not seeing Allah.

    Having said that, may I ask you if you agree with other Muslims that “a holy book” that has contradictions is “not from God”?

    Thanks.

    —————————————————————————————————————————-

    Q#1) What was your intention in reposting the article above by Sam Shamoun?

    Q#2) Is it to show the contradictions in the Quran whether Muhammad saw Allah or not?

    Answer: It is to remind you that NOT ALL Hadith that arises are true. Hadith is NOT a revelation from God. Unlike the Qur’an, it is NOT protected. It do not show that there is contradiction.

    “Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur’an and indeed, We will be its guardian.”
    ~ Qur’an 15:9 / Sahih International translation.

    “That is from the news of the ‘unseen’ which We reveal to you, [O Muhammad] . . . .”
    ~ Qur’an 3:44 / Sahih International translation.

    Q#3) Having said that, may I ask you if you agree with other Muslims that “a holy book” that has contradictions is “not from God”?

    Answer: YES! I DELIBERATELY AGREE! (What about you, AGREE OR NOT AGREE?)

    • defenderben said
      “Kung ako ay sumulat sa iyo, mula dito sa amin at akin itong ipinadala sa isang postal service agency. At ang sulat ay dinala sa iyong bahay ng isang postman, TANONG: Ako ba ang may-ari ng sulat at ang mga salita’t diwa na napapaloob doon sulat o ang postman? Pakisagot lang po.”

      CENON BIBE:
      I’m sure MAY NAKAKAKITA sa INYO diyan sa INYO. MAY PROOF na TOTOO KAYO at MAY MAGPAPATOTOO na TOTOO KAYO.

      E yung “ANGHEL” na KUMAUSAP daw kay MUHAMMAD ay WALANG MAGPAPATOTOO na TOTOO YON, di po ba?

      INAMIN na NINYONG WALANG KAHIT ANONG PROOF na MAY ANGHEL, di po ba?

      So, MALI po ang ANALOGY at HALIMBAWA na GINAMIT NINYO.

      +++

      defenderben said:
      eh ‘di lagyan ng saksi o mga saksi. Kung gusto mo, ikaw na din bahala kung sino siya o sinu-sino sila. PERO, mas may maganda akong ideya. GAWIN KAYA NATING IKAW DIN MISMO ANG SAKSI. MAGANDA NAMAN, ‘DI BA?

      CENON BIBE:
      SINO naman po ang ILALAGAY NINYONG SAKSI dun sa “ANGHEL” daw na KUMAUSAP sa PROPETA NINYO?

      MAKAKAGAWA pa ba KAYO ng SAKSI dun sa ANGHEL e umamin na NGA PO kayo NA walang saksi doon?

      +++

      defenderben said:
      Tayo ay sa isang lugar, na kung saan may medyo mahabang mesa at dalawang upuan sa magkabilang-dulo, kasama ng isa sa iyong naging sakristan. (Pansinin, tatlo tayo sa isang lugar na iyon). Ngayon, ako ay umupo sa isang selya na nasa isa sa magkabilabg-dulo ng mesa, ikaw ay aking inutusan pumunta malapit sa aking likuran, para maging saksi sa aking gagawin. Ako ay sumulat ng liham para sa iyo sa isang kapirasong papel. Pagkatapos, ikaw ay aking inutusan na umupo sa nalalabing selya sa kabila kong dulo. Aking inutusan ang isa sa iyong naging sakristan na iabot ang (aking) sulat sa iyo. Tumalima siya at iniabot sa iyo. Ito ay iyong kinuha at binasa.

      TANONG: Ako ba ang may-ari ng sulat, mga salita at diwa na nilalaman nito, OO o HINDI?

      CENON BIBE:
      KUNG KAYO ang ISYU ay madaling masabi NA INYO ANG SULAT.

      Pero HINDI po KAYO ang ISYU, di po ba?

      Ang ISYU ay ang ANGHEL at ang PAGKAUSAP DAW ng “ANGHEL” sa PROPETA NINYO. TAMA po ba?

      Ang TANONG KO ay SINO ang THiRD PERSON na NAKAKITA sa ANGHEL na IYON nung KAUSAPIN NIYA yung PROPETA NINYO?

      YAN po ang PAKI SAGOT NINYO.

      • [defenderben] says:

        May I remind you that the root issue as to why I ask you it ay dahil sa tanong MO na, kung

        “DAPAT ba na tawaging Propeta ng Diyos ang isang nagsasabing siya ay Propeta kung hindi naman Diyos ang nagsugo sa kanya?”

        Huling tanong ko na ito sa inyo, tungkol sa isyo na iyon:

        AKO BA ANG MAY-ARI NG SULAT, OO o HINDI?

        _(Kapag iniwasan mo pa ito, I assume na tulad ka lang ni Mayweather Jr na ana madaming excuse sa paglaban kay Pacquiao.)

  10. Let us share in your question if agree with other Muslims that “a holy book” that has contradictions is “not from God” . . . before you answer that question which is from you, let me give you a dose of your own medicine:

    “…God is Not the author of confusion..”

    1 Corinthians 14:33 KJV

    Q#1) God be seen?

    EXO 24:9,10; AMO 9:1; GEN 26:2; and JOH 14:9

    (A) God CAN be seen:

    “And I will take away my hand, and thou shalt see my backparts.” (EXO 33:23)
    “And the Lord spake to Moses face to face, as a man speaketh to his friend.” (EXO 33:11)
    “For I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.” (GEN 32:30)

    (B) God CANNOT be seen:

    “No man hath seen God at any time.” (JOH 1:18)
    “And he said, Thou canst not see my face; for there shall no man see me and live.” (EXO 33:20)
    “Whom no man hath seen nor can see.” (1TIM 6:16)

    Q#2) Who Incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?

    (a) God did (2 Samuel 24:1)

    (b) Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1)

    Q#3) In that count how many fighting men were found in Isael?

    (a) Eight Hundred Thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)

    (b) One million, one hundred thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)

    Q#4) How many fighting men were found in Judah?

    (a) Five Hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)

    (b) Four Hundred & seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)

    Q#5) God sent His Prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine?

    (a) Seven (2 Samuel 24:13)

    (b) Three (I Chronicles 21:12)

    Next time, I will shower you, and soap you with more contradictions.

    [NOTE: ‎”…A House divided against itself falls…”

    ( Luke 11:17 NAS Bible)]

    See also: https://defenderben.wordpress.com/2012/03/10/ang-bibliya-ay-totoo-fr-cenon-bibe-jr/
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  11. defenderben said:
    It is to remind you that NOT ALL Hadith that arises are true. Hadith is NOT a revelation from God. Unlike the Qur’an, it is NOT protected. It do not show that there is contradiction.

    CENON BIBE:
    So, YOU YOURSELF are SAYING that the HADITHS are NOT RELIABLE.

    Thus, the STORY of the AL MIRAJ and EVEN the HADITH JIBRIL are NOT RELIABLE.

    YOU YOURSELF have THROWN AWAY the “PROOF” being used to show that ALLAH “talked” to Muhammad.

    +++

    defenderben said:
    “Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur’an and indeed, We will be its guardian.”
    ~ Qur’an 15:9 / Sahih International translation.

    “That is from the news of the ‘unseen’ which We reveal to you, [O Muhammad] . . . .”
    ~ Qur’an 3:44 / Sahih International translation.

    Q#3) Having said that, may I ask you if you agree with other Muslims that “a holy book” that has contradictions is “not from God”?

    Answer: YES! I DELIBERATELY AGREE! (What about you, AGREE OR NOT AGREE?)

    CENON BIBE:
    I dont’ know if you noticed but THERE ARE CONTRADICTIONS in WHAT YOU SAID and in OTHER CLAIMS of the QURAN.

    SURAH 3:44 SAYS THAT ALLAH was the ONE WHO REVEALED to MUHAMMAD. IT IS in the FIRST PERSON “WE”, meaning IT WAS ALLAH HIMSELF who SUPPOSEDLY MADE the REVELATION to YOUR PROPHET.

    But then, the QURAN also SAYS that IT WAS “JIBRIL” who REVEALED the QURAN to MUHAMMAD.

    isn’t that A CLEAR CONTRADICTION?

    SEEING this CONTRADICTION in the CLAIMS of the QURAN, DO YOU NOW AGREE that the QURAN is ‘NOT FROM GOD”?

    +++

    ALSO, IF GOD was the PROTECTOR of the QURAN, WHY DID HE ALLOW CONTRADICTIONS in the VERY FIRST COPIES of the ARABIC TEXT?

    In fact, ACCORDING TO THE HADITH, the CONTRADICTIONS were SO BAD that CALIPH UTHMAN HAD to MAKE HIS OWN COPIES of the QURAN and ORDERED MANY of the EARLY COPIES of the QURAN BURNED.

    HADITH BUKHARI 61:510
    … Hudhaifa was afraid of their (the people of Sham and Iraq) DIFFERENCES in the RECITATION of the QUR’AN … ‘Uthman then ordered Zaid bin Thabit, ‘Abdullah bin AzZubair, Said bin Al-As and ‘AbdurRahman bin Harith bin Hisham to REWRITE the manuscripts in perfect copies. ‘uthman said to the three Quraishi men, “In case you DISAGREE with Zaid bin Thabit on any point in the Qur’an, then write it in the dialect of Quraish … [UTHMAN] ordered that all the other Qur’anic materials, whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, BE BURNT ….”

    YOU MAY READ the HADITH by CLICKING HERE ==> UTHMAN ORDERS QURAN BURNED.

  12. Who exactly revealed the Qur’aan, a Contradiction?

    Again, I say to you, Angels are creations that obey as exactly as what the our Creator has exactly commanded. God, technically “revealed the Qur’an to Muhammad” (peace be upon him) “thru one of his servant/creation Gabriel/Jibreel”. That is according to His Will. Technically speaking again, Gabriel/Jibreel “directly” revealed the (Last) Word of God ~ Qur’aan to Muhammad (peace be upon him). The revelation of the Qur’aan to Muhammad (peace be upon him) by Jibreel, is not of Jibreel’s own will, but from God Himself. Finally, God is the One who make it possible for the Qur’aan to reached Muhammad (peace be upon him). God revealed the Qur’aan.

    You said,

    “In fact, ACCORDING TO THE HADITH, the CONTRADICTIONS were SO BAD that CALIPH UTHMAN HAD to MAKE HIS OWN COPIES of the QURAN and ORDERED MANY of the EARLY COPIES of the QURAN BURNED.” . . . .

    Again and again, not all Hadith are reliable. We believe that, some add, some omit, some lied, some changed the reports about what Muhammad (peace be upon him) has said, did, prohibit or approved of. Like, about the age of Aisha, about Miraj . . . and many more. Let me emphasize, NOT ALL HADITH ARE RELIABLE. IT FOLLOWS THAT THERE ARE ALSO HADITH THAT ARE RELIABLE.

    I’m not throwing the possible proofs that shows conversation about Allah (swt) (God) and Muhammad (peace be upon him).
    I CLEARLY SAID, NOT ALL. ARE YOU BLIND OR SOMETHING?

  13. [defenderben] says:

    101 Contradictions in the Bible:

    101 Clear Contradictions in the Bible

    Shabir Ally

    1. Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?

    God did (2 Samuel 24: 1)
    Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1)

    2. In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel?

    Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
    One million, one hundred thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)

    3. How many fighting men were found in Judah?

    Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
    Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)

    4. God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine?

    Seven (2 Samuel 24:13)
    Three (I Chronicles 21:12)

    5. How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem?

    Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26)
    Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2)

    6. How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem?

    Eighteen (2 Kings 24:8)
    Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9)

    7. How long did he rule over Jerusalem?

    Three months (2 Kings 24:8)
    Three months and ten days (2 Chronicles 36:9)

    8. The chief of the mighty men of David lifted up his spear and killed how many men at one time?

    Eight hundred (2 Samuel 23:8)
    Three hundred (I Chronicles 11: 11)

    9. When did David bring the Ark of the Covenant to Jerusalem? Before defeating the Philistines or after?

    After (2 Samuel 5 and 6)
    Before (I Chronicles 13 and 14)

    10. How many pairs of clean animals did God tell Noah to take into the Ark?

    Two (Genesis 6:19, 20)
    Seven (Genesis 7:2). But despite this last instruction only two pairs went into the ark (Genesis 7:8-9)

    11. When David defeated the King of Zobah, how many horsemen did he capture?

    One thousand and seven hundred (2 Samuel 8:4)
    Seven thousand (I Chronicles 18:4)

    12. How many stalls for horses did Solomon have?

    Forty thousand (I Kings 4:26)
    Four thousand (2 chronicles 9:25)

    13. In what year of King Asa’s reign did Baasha, King of Israel die?

    Twenty-sixth year (I Kings 15:33 – 16:8)
    Still alive in the thirty-sixth year (2 Chronicles 16:1)

    14. How many overseers did Solomon appoint for the work of building the temple?

    Three thousand six hundred (2 Chronicles 2:2)
    Three thousand three hundred (I Kings 5:16)

    15. Solomon built a facility containing how many baths?

    Two thousand (1 Kings 7:26)
    Over three thousand (2 Chronicles 4:5)

    16. Of the Israelites who were freed from the Babylonian captivity, how many were the children of Pahrath-Moab?

    Two thousand eight hundred and twelve (Ezra 2:6)
    Two thousand eight hundred and eighteen (Nehemiah 7:11)

    17. How many were the children of Zattu?

    Nine hundred and forty-five (Ezra 2:8)
    Eight hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:13)

    18. How many were the children of Azgad?

    One thousand two hundred and twenty-two (Ezra 2:12)
    Two thousand three hundred and twenty-two (Nehemiah 7:17)

    19. How many were the children of Adin?

    Four hundred and fifty-four (Ezra 2:15)
    Six hundred and fifty-five (Nehemiah 7:20)

    20. How many were the children of Hashum?

    Two hundred and twenty-three (Ezra 2:19)
    Three hundred and twenty-eight (Nehemiah 7:22)

    21. How many were the children of Bethel and Ai?

    Two hundred and twenty-three (Ezra 2:28)
    One hundred and twenty-three (Nehemiah 7:32)

    22. Ezra 2:64 and Nehemiah 7:66 agree that the total number of the whole assembly was 42,360. Yet the numbers do not add up to anything close. The totals obtained from each book is as follows:

    29,818 (Ezra)
    31,089 (Nehemiah)

    23. How many singers accompanied the assembly?

    Two hundred (Ezra 2:65)
    Two hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:67)

    24. What was the name of King Abijahs mother?

    Michaiah, daughter of Uriel of Gibeah (2 Chronicles 13:2)
    Maachah, daughter of Absalom (2 Chronicles 11:20) But Absalom had only one daughter whose name was Tamar (2 Samuel 14:27)

    25. Did Joshua and the Israelites capture Jerusalem?

    Yes (Joshua 10:23, 40)
    No (Joshua 15:63)

    26. Who was the father of Joseph, husband of Mary?

    Jacob (Matthew 1:16)
    Hell (Luke 3:23)

    27. Jesus descended from which son of David?

    Solomon (Matthew 1:6)
    Nathan(Luke3:31)

    28. Who was the father of Shealtiel?

    Jechoniah (Matthew 1:12)
    Neri (Luke 3:27)

    29. Which son of Zerubbabel was an ancestor of Jesus Christ?

    Abiud (Matthew 1: 13)
    Rhesa (Luke 3:27) But the seven sons of Zerubbabel are as follows: i.Meshullam, ii. Hananiah, iii. Hashubah, iv. Ohel, v.Berechiah, vi. Hasadiah, viii. Jushabhesed (I Chronicles 3:19, 20). The names Abiud and Rhesa do not fit in anyway.

    30. Who was the father of Uzziah?

    Joram (Matthew 1:8)
    Amaziah (2 Chronicles 26:1)

    31. Who was the father of Jechoniah?

    Josiah (Matthew 1:11)
    Jeholakim (I Chronicles 3:16)

    32. How many generations were there from the Babylonian exile until Christ?

    Matthew says fourteen (Matthew 1:17)
    But a careful count of the generations reveals only thirteen (see Matthew 1: 12-16)

    33. Who was the father of Shelah?

    Cainan (Luke 3:35-36)
    Arphaxad (Genesis II: 12)

    34. Was John the Baptist Elijah who was to come?

    Yes (Matthew II: 14, 17:10-13)
    No (John 1:19-21)

    35. Would Jesus inherit Davids throne?

    Yes. So said the angel (Luke 1:32)
    No, since he is a descendant of Jehoiakim (see Matthew 1: I 1, I Chronicles 3:16). And Jehoiakim was cursed by God so that none of his descendants can sit upon Davids throne (Jeremiah 36:30)

    36. Jesus rode into Jerusalem on how many animals?

    One – a colt (Mark 11:7; cf Luke 19:3 5). And they brought the colt to Jesus and threw their garments on it; and he sat upon it.
    Two – a colt and an ass (Matthew 21:7). They brought the ass and the colt and put their garments on them and he sat thereon.

    37. How did Simon Peter find out that Jesus was the Christ?

    By a revelation from heaven (Matthew 16:17)
    His brother Andrew told him (John 1:41)

    38. Where did Jesus first meet Simon Peter and Andrew?

    By the sea of Galilee (Matthew 4:18-22)
    On the banks of river Jordan (John 1:42). After that, Jesus decided to go to Galilee (John 1:43)

    39. When Jesus met Jairus was Jairus daughter already dead?

    Yes. Matthew 9:18 quotes him as saying, My daughter has just died.
    No. Mark 5:23 quotes him as saying, My little daughter is at the point of death.

    40. Did Jesus allow his disciples to keep a staff on their journey?

    Yes (Mark 6:8)
    No (Matthew 10:9; Luke 9:3)

    41. Did Herod think that Jesus was John the Baptist?

    Yes (Matthew 14:2; Mark 6:16)
    No (Luke 9:9)

    42. Did John the Baptist recognize Jesus before his baptism?

    Yes (Matthew 3:13-14)
    No (John 1:32,33)

    43. Did John the Baptist recognize Jesus after his baptism?

    Yes (John 1:32, 33)
    No (Matthew 11:2)

    44. According to the Gospel of John, what did Jesus say about bearing his own witness?

    If I bear witness to myself, my testimony is not true (John 5:3 1)
    Even if I do bear witness to myself, my testimony is true (John 8:14)

    45. When Jesus entered Jerusalem did he cleanse the temple that same day?

    Yes (Matthew 21:12)
    No. He went into the temple and looked around, but since it was very late he did nothing. Instead, he went to Bethany to spend the night and returned the next morning to cleanse the temple (Mark I 1:1- 17)

    46. The Gospels say that Jesus cursed a fig tree. Did the tree wither at once?

    Yes. (Matthew 21:19)
    No. It withered overnight (Mark II: 20)

    47. Did Judas kiss Jesus?

    Yes (Matthew 26:48-50)
    No. Judas could not get close enough to Jesus to kiss him (John 18:3-12)

    48. What did Jesus say about Peters denial?

    The cock will not crow till you have denied me three times (John 13:38)
    Before the cock crows twice you will deny me three times (Mark 14:30) . When the cock crowed once, the three denials were not yet complete (see Mark 14:72). Therefore prediction (a) failed.

    49. Did Jesus bear his own cross?

    Yes (John 19:17)
    No (Matthew 27:31-32)

    50. Did Jesus die before the curtain of the temple was torn?

    Yes (Matthew 27:50-51; Mark lS:37-38)
    No. After the curtain was torn, then Jesus crying with a loud voice, said, Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit! And having said this he breathed his last (Luke 23:45-46)

    51. Did Jesus say anything secretly?

    No. I have said nothing secretly (John 18:20)
    Yes. He did not speak to them without a parable, but privately to his own disciples he explained everything (Mark 4:34). The disciples asked him Why do you speak to them in parables? He said, To you it has been given to know the secrets of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given (Matthew 13: 1 0-11)

    52. Where was Jesus at the sixth hour on the day of the crucifixion?

    On the cross (Mark 15:23)
    In Pilates court (John 19:14)

    53. The gospels say that two thieves were crucified along with Jesus. Did both thieves mock Jesus?

    Yes (Mark 15:32)
    No. One of them mocked Jesus, the other defended Jesus (Luke 23:43)

    54. Did Jesus ascend to Paradise the same day of the crucifixion?

    Yes. He said to the thief who defended him, Today you will be with me in Paradise (Luke 23:43)
    No. He said to Mary Magdelene two days later, I have not yet ascended to the Father (John 20:17)

    55. When Paul was on the road to Damascus he saw a light and heard a voice. Did those who were with him hear the voice?

    Yes (Acts9:7)
    No (Acts22:9)

    56. When Paul saw the light he fell to the ground. Did his traveling companions also fall to the ground?

    Yes (Acts 26:14)
    No (Acts 9:7)

    57. Did the voice spell out on the spot what Pauls duties were to be?

    Yes (Acts 26:16-18)
    No. The voice commanded Paul to go into the city of Damascus and there he will be told what he must do. (Acts9:7;22: 10)

    58. When the Israelites dwelt in Shittin they committed adultery with the daughters of Moab. God struck them with a plague. How many people died in that plague?

    Twenty-four thousand (Numbers 25:1 and 9)
    Twenty-three thousand (I Corinthians 10:8)

    59. How many members of the house of Jacob came to Egypt?

    Seventy souls (Genesis 4 & 27)
    Seventy-five souls (Acts 7:14)

    60. What did Judas do with the blood money he received for betraying Jesus?

    He bought a field (Acts 1: 18)
    He threw all of it into the temple and went away. The priests could not put the blood money into the temple treasury, so they used it to buy a field to bury strangers (Matthew 27:5)

    61. How did Judas die?

    After he threw the money into the temple he went away and hanged himself (Matthew 27:5)
    After he bought the field with the price of his evil deed he fell headlong and burst open in the middle and all his bowels gushed out (Acts 1:18)

    62. Why is the field called Field of Blood?

    Because the priests bought it with the blood money (Matthew 27:8)
    Because of the bloody death of Judas therein (Acts 1:19)

    63. Who is a ransom for whom?

    The Son of Man came…to give his life as a ransom for many (Mark 10:45). Christ Jesus who gave himself as a ransom for all… (I Timothy 2:5-6)
    The wicked is a ransom for the righteous, and the faithless for the upright (Proverbs 21:18)

    64. Is the law of Moses useful?

    Yes. All scripture is… profitable… (2 Timothy 3:16)
    No. . . . A former commandment is set aside because of its weakness and uselessness… (Hebrews 7:18)

    65. What was the exact wording on the cross?

    This is Jesus the King of the Jews (Matthew 27:37)
    The King of the Jews (Mark 15:26)
    This is the King of the Jews (Luke 23:38)
    Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews (John 19:19)

    66. Did Herod want to kill John the Baptist?

    Yes (Matthew 14:5)
    No. It was Herodias, the wife of Herod who wanted to kill him. But Herod knew that he was a righteous man and kept him safe (Mark 6:20)

    67. Who was the tenth disciple of Jesus in the list of twelve?

    Thaddaeus (Matthew 10: 1-4; Mark 3:13 -19)
    Judas son of James is the corresponding name in Lukes gospel (Luke 6:12-16)

    68. Jesus saw a man sitat the tax collectors office and called him to be his disciple. What was his name?

    Matthew (Matthew 9:9)
    Levi (Mark 2:14; Luke 5:27)

    69. Was Jesus crucified on the daytime before the Passover meal or the daytime after?

    After (Mark 14:12-17)
    Before. Before the feast of the Passover (John 1) Judas went out at night (John 13:30). The other disciples thought he was going out to buy supplies to prepare for the Passover meal (John 13:29). When Jesus was arrested, the Jews did not enter Pilates judgment hail because they wanted to stay clean to eat the Passover (John 18:28). When the judgment was pronounced against Jesus, it was about the sixth hour on the day of Preparation for the Passover (John 19:14)

    70. Did Jesus pray to The Father to prevent the crucifixion?

    Yes. (Matthew 26:39; Mark 14:36; Luke 22:42)
    No. (John 12:27)

    71. In the gospels which say that Jesus prayed to avoid the cross, how many times did he move away from his disciples to pray?

    Three (Matthew 26:36-46 and Mark 14:32-42)
    One. No opening is left for another two times. (Luke 22:39-46)

    72. Matthew and Mark agree that Jesus went away and prayed three times. What were the words of the second prayer?

    Mark does not give the words but he says that the words were the same as the first prayer (Mark 14:3 9)
    Matthew gives us the words, and we can see that they are not the same as in the first (Matthew 26:42)

    73. What did the centurion say when Jesus dies?

    Certainly this man was innocent (Luke 23:47)
    Truly this man was the Son of God (Mark 15:39)

    74. When Jesus said My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken Me ? in what language did he speak?

    Hebrew: the words are Eloi, Eloi ..(Matthew 27:46)
    Aramaic: the words are Eloi, Eloi .. (Mark 15:34)

    75. According to the gospels, what were the last words of Jesus before he died?

    Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit! (Luke 23:46)
    “It is finished” (John 19:30)

    76. When Jesus entered Capernaum he healed the slave of a centurion. Did the centurion come personally to request Jesus for this?

    Yes (Matthew 8:5)
    No. He sent some elders of the Jews and his friends (Luke 7:3,6)

    77.

    Adam was told that if and when he eats the forbidden fruit he would die the same day (Genesis 2:17)
    Adam ate the fruit and went on to live to a ripe old age of 930 years (Genesis 5:5)

    78.

    God decided that the life-span of humans will be limited to 120 years (Genesis 6:3)
    Many people born after that lived longer than 120. Arpachshad lived 438 years. His son Shelah lived 433 years. His son Eber lived 464 years, etc. (Genesis 11:12-16)

    79. Apart from Jesus did anyone else ascend to heaven?

    No (John 3:13)
    Yes. And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven (2 Kings 2:11)

    80. Who was high priest when David went into the house of God and ate the consecrated bread?

    Abiathar (Mark 2:26)
    Ahimelech, the father of Abiathar (I Samuel 1:1; 22:20)

    81. Was Jesus body wrapped in spices before burial in accordance with Jewish burial customs?

    Yes and his female disciples witnessed his burial (John 19:39-40)
    No. Jesus was simply wrapped in a linen shroud. Then the women bought and prepared spices so that they may go and anoint him [Jesus) (Mark 16: 1)

    82. When did the women buy the spices?

    After the Sabbath was past (Mark 16:1)
    Before the Sabbath. The women prepared spices and ointments. Then, on the Sabbath they rested according to the commandment (Luke 23:55 to 24:1)

    83. At what time of day did the women visit the tomb?

    Toward the dawn (Matthew 28: 1)
    When the sun had risen (Mark 16:2)

    84. What was the purpose for which the women went to the tomb?

    To anoint Jesus body with spices (Mark 16: 1; Luke 23:55 to 24: 1)
    To see the tomb. Nothing about spices here (Matthew 28: 1)
    For no specified reason. In this gospel the wrapping with spices had been done before the Sabbath (John 20: 1)

    85. A large stone was placed at the entrance of the tomb. Where was the stone when the women arrived?

    They saw that the stone was Rolled back (Mark 16:4) They found the stone rolled away from the tomb (Luke 24:2) They saw that the stone had been taken away from the tomb (John 20:1)
    As the women approached, an angel descended from heaven, rolled away the stone, and conversed with the women. Matthew made the women witness the spectacular rolling away of the stone (Matthew 28:1-6)

    86. Did anyone tell the women what happened to Jesus body?

    Yes. A young man in a white robe (Mark 16:5). Two men … in dazzling apparel later described as angels (Luke 24:4 and 24:23). An angel – the one who rolled back the stone (Matthew 16:2). In each case the women were told that Jesus had risen from the dead (Matthew 28:7; Mark 16:6; Luke 24:5 footnote)
    No. Mary met no one and returned saying, They have taken the Lord out of the tomb, and we do not know where they have laid him (John 20:2)

    87. When did Mary Magdelene first meet the resurrected Jesus? And how did she react?

    Mary and the other women met Jesus on their way back from their first and only visit to the tomb. They took hold of his feet and worshipped him (Matthew 28:9)
    On her second visit to the tomb Mary met Jesus just outside the tomb. When she saw Jesus she did not recognize him. She mistook him for the gardener. She still thinks that Jesus body is laid to rest somewhere and she demands to know where. But when Jesus said her name she at once recognized him and called him Teacher. Jesus said to her, Do not hold me… (John 20:11 to 17)

    88. What was Jesus instruction for his disciples?

    Tell my brethren to go to Galilee, and there they will see me (Matthew 2 8: 10)
    Go to my brethren and say to them, I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God (John 20:17)

    89. When did the disciples return to Galilee?

    Immediately, because when they saw Jesus in Galilee some doubted (Matthew 28:17). This period of uncertainty should not persist
    After at least 40 days. That evening the disciples were still in Jerusalem (Luke 24:3 3). Jesus appeared to them there and told them, stay in the city until you are clothed with power from on high (Luke 24:49). He was appearing to them during forty days (Acts 1:3), and charged them not to depart from Jerusalem, but to wait for the promise … (Acts 1:4)

    90. To whom did the Midianites sell Joseph?

    To the Ishmaelites (Genesis 37:28)
    To Potiphar, an officer of Pharaoh (Genesis 37:36)

    91. Who brought Joseph to Egypt?

    The Ishmaelites bought Joseph and then took Joseph to Egypt (Genesis 37:28)
    The Midianites had sold him in Egypt (Genesis 37:36)
    Joseph said to his brothers I am your brother, Joseph, whom you sold into Egypt (Genesis 45:4)

    92. Does God change his mind?

    Yes. The word of the Lord came to Samuel: I repent that I have made Saul King… (I Samuel 15:10 to 11)
    No. God will not lie or repent; for he is not a man, that he should repent (I Samuel 15:29)

    Yes. And the Lord repented that he had made Saul King over Israel (I Samuel 15:35). Notice that the above three quotes are all from the same chapter of the same book! In addition, the Bible shows that God repented on several other occasions:

    i. The Lord was sorry that he made man (Genesis 6:6)

    I am sorry that I have made them (Genesis 6:7)

    ii. And the Lord repented of the evil which he thought to do to his people (Exodus 32:14).

    iii. (Lots of other such references).

    93. The Bible says that for each miracle Moses and Aaron demonstrated the magicians did the same by their secret arts. Then comes the following feat:

    Moses and Aaron converted all the available water into blood (Exodus 7:20-21)
    The magicians did the same (Exodus 7:22). This is impossible, since there would have been no water left to convert into blood.

    94. Who killed Goliath?

    David (I Samuel 17:23, 50)
    Elhanan (2 Samuel 21:19)

    95. Who killed Saul?

    Saul took his own sword and fell upon it…. Thus Saul died… (I Samuel 31:4-6)
    An Amalekite slew him (2 Samuel 1:1- 16)

    96. Does every man sin?

    Yes. There is no man who does not sin (I Kings 8:46; see also 2 Chronicles 6:36; Proverbs 20:9; Ecclesiastes 7:20; and I John 1:810)
    No. True Christians cannot possibly sin, because they are the children of God. Every one who believes that Jesus is the Christ is a child of God.. (I John 5:1). We should be called children of God; and so we are (I John 3: 1). He who loves is born of God (I John 4:7). No one born of God commits sin; for Gods nature abides in him, and he cannot sin because he is born of God (I John 3:9). But, then again, Yes! If we say we have no sin we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us (I John 1:8)

    97. Who will bear whose burden?

    Bear one anothers burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ (Galatians 6:2)
    Each man will have to bear his own load (Galatians 6:5)

    98. How many disciples did Jesus appear to after his resurrection?

    Twelve (I Corinthians 15:5)
    Eleven (Matthew 27:3-5 and Acts 1:9-26, see also Matthew 28:16; Mark 16:14 footnote; Luke 24:9; Luke 24:3 3)

    99. Where was Jesus three days after his baptism?

    After his baptism, the spirit immediately drove him out into the wilderness. And he was in the wilderness forty days … (Mark 1:12-13)
    Next day after the baptism, Jesus selected two disciples. Second day: Jesus went to Galilee – two more disciples. Third day: Jesus was at a wedding feast in Cana in Galilee (see John 1:35; 1:43; 2:1-11)

    100. Was baby Jesus life threatened in Jerusalem?

    Yes, so Joseph fled with him to Egypt and stayed there until Herod died (Matthew 2:13 23)
    No. The family fled nowhere. They calmly presented the child at the Jerusalem temple according to the Jewish customs and returned to Galilee (Luke 2:21-40)

    101. When Jesus walked on water how did the disciples respond?

    They worshipped him, saying, Truly you are the Son of God (Matthew 14:33)
    They were utterly astounded, for they did not understand about the loaves, but their hearts were hardened (Mark 6:51-52)

  14. [defenderben] says:

    Ok. Defend to me that the 101 ‘alleged’ contradictions are false. I’m waiting. REPLY HERE. Since you deliberately boasting that your Bible has no contradictin/s, then try me. Answer me and defend it point by point, [Father?]CenonBibeJr . . . ^_*

  15. [defenderben] says:

    btw, I forgot to tell that Sam Shamoun was NOT a Muslim. He was like you ~ a pagan Trinitarian.

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