If Jesus Was God

If Jesus was GOD:

The sections of this article:

1-   How can Jesus be GOD Almighty in the light of the following verses?
2-   The “God” title given others beside Jesus.
3-   The “Son” title also given to others beside Jesus.
4-   Jesus’ Miracles were not unique in the Bible.
5-   Excellent questions about Trinity from brother “Ghostwriter” to Christians.
6-   Conclusion.

1-   How can Jesus be GOD Almighty in the light of the following verses?

If Jesus was GOD, then why in Mark 12:29 Jesus said “Here, O Israel:  The Lord our God is one Lord.”   The words“our God” indicate that Jesus had a higher God over him, a stronger God than him.  Jesus didn’t say “Your God”.  He said “our God” which includes Jesus as the creation of GOD.

If Jesus was GOD, then why did he ask for GOD’s Forgiveness in Luke 23:34?  Please visit How can Jesus be GOD Almighty when he asked for GOD’s Forgiveness?

If Jesus was GOD, then why Mark 15:34 says “And at the ninth hour Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?”—which means, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”

If Jesus was GOD, then did Paul say in 1 Corinthians 8:6 “yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.”

If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 20:17 Jesus said “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’ ”

If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 8:28 Jesus said “I do nothing of myself”?  Can’t GOD do anything he wills?

If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 14:28 Jesus said “My Father (GOD) is greater than I”?

If Jesus was GOD, then why in Luke 23:46 Jesus said “Father (GOD), into thy hands I commend my spirit”?

If Jesus was GOD, then why in Mark 10:18 Jesus said “And Jesus said to him, ‘Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone.”?

Also in Luke 18:19 Jesus said only GOD Almighty is Good: “”Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good—except God alone.”

If Jesus was GOD, then why in Matthew 26:39 Jesus begged his GOD to have mercy on him and to pass the cup to death (kill Jesus in another words) before Jesus goes through the pain of crucifixion?  Also see: Jesus’ crucifixion in Islam

If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 18:38 he didn’t reply when he was asked about the truth?

If Jesus was GOD, then why in Matthew 24:36 Jesus said “No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”  Jesus told his followers that no one (including Jesus) knows when the judgment day will come, only GOD knows?

If Jesus was GOD, then why in Isaiah 11:2-3 GOD had put the spirit of fearing GOD in Jesus?  Also see GOD’s Spirit in the many others beside Jesus.

If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 5:31 Jesus told his followers that if he (Jesus) bears witness of himself, then his record is not true?

If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 5:30 Jesus told his followers that he can’t do a single thing of his own initiative?

If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 5:36-38 Jesus said that GOD had assigned him (Jesus) work and GOD is a witness on Jesus?

If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 5:32 Jesus told his followers that they have never seen GOD at anytime nor ever heard his voice?

If Jesus was GOD, then why did he pray to his GOD in Luke 5:16?

If Jesus was GOD, then why in Matthew 26:39 Jesus fell on his face and prayed to his GOD?

If Jesus was GOD, then how come in Hebrew 5:7 he prayed and cried for GOD to hear him and give him mercy by saving him from death?

If Jesus was GOD, then how come in John 1:18 he said “No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only, who is at the FATHER’S side, has made HIM known.”  Where do you see Trinity in this Verse?

If Jesus was GOD, then how come in John 5:37 he said “And the FATHER who sent me has himself testified concerning me. You have never heard HIS voice nor seen HIS form,”  Jesus and the GOD are different.  People heard Jesus, but never heard GOD.

2-  The “God” title given to others beside Jesus:

Please visit The “God” title in the Bible was given to others in the OT and NT. Answering Isaiah 9:6.

3-  The “Son” title also given to others beside Jesus:

How come Christians take the “God’s Son” title literally with Jesus and they don’t take it literally for the rest of the prophets and people who were called the Sons of God?

In John 3:16 Jesus was called God’s only Begotten Son.

In Exodus 4:22 “Thus saith Jehovah, Israel is my son, even my firstborn.  Israel was called God’s First Son.

In Jeremiah 31:9 “I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn.”  Ephraim is God’s First Son and First Born.

In Psalm 2:7 “….Jehovah had said onto me (David), thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.”  David was called God’s Begotten Son.

4-  Jesus’ Miracles were not unique in the Bible:

If Jesus is believed to be GOD because he could do miracles, he could heal leprosy, he could cause blind men to see, or raise the dead, then what about the others who performed the same miracles?

Elisha and Elijah fed a hundred people with twenty barley loaves and a few ears of corn (2 Kings 4:44).  Elisha told Naaman, who was a leper, to wash in the river Jordan (2 Kings 5:14) and he was healed.  Elisha caused a blind man to see in (2 Kings 6:17,20).  Elijah and Elisha raised the dead in (1 Kings 17:22, and 2 Kings 4:34).  Even Elisha’s dead bones restored a dead body in (2 Kings 13:21).  Indeed Jesus had prophesied that people will worship him uselessly and will believe in doctrines not made by GOD but by men “But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. (Matthew 15:9)

In Matthew 15:9 above, we see Jesus warning that Trinity (the bogus lie) will dominate, and people will take Jesus as GOD and worship him, which is a total sin according to what Jesus said !!.

Allah Almighty (GOD) in the Noble Quran (The Muslims’ Holy Scripture) states in Verse 5:72 “They do blaspheme who say: ‘God is Christ the son of Mary.’ But said Christ: ‘O Children of Israel ! worship God, my Lord and your Lord.’ “

Also in Noble Verse 5:73 “They do blaspheme who say God is one of three in a Trinity:  for there is no god except One God.  If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them.”

And also in Noble Verse 4:171 “O People of the Book!  Commit no excesses in your religion:  Nor say of God aught but the truth.  Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of God, …”

Please visit Jesus’ Miracles were not unique in the Bible for more details and elaborations.

5-  Excellent questions about Trinity from “Ghostwriter” to Christians:

The following is an email I received from “Ghostwriter”; may Allah Almighty further Guide him to the Truth of Islam.

Note:  “PBUH!” means “peace be upon him”, which is something Muslims always say after a Prophet’s name.

From: Ghostwriter
To: truthspeaks@answering-christianity.com
Subj: Letter from a Christian who agrees with you and cites with gratitude Quran 2:62
Date: 1/18/2003 6:48:58 PM Eastern Standard Time

*Thank you* for all your excellent work on the web site.  Those of us who followed Jesus (PBUH!) first and then came upon the Noble Quran know that there is one great religion, and that Jesus (PBUH!) and Muhammad (PBUH!) were both messengers of that religion.

Questions and observations I have for fellow Christians who have not yet actually read the Noble Quran include the following. Perhaps you could post them on your site.

BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN HE WHOM THE APOSTLES FOLLOWED:

1-  Where, specifically, in the Gospel does Jesus (PBUH!) mention the Trinity?

(If you find no such reference from his lips to a god residing in three persons — and you will not — then perhaps you will be moved to consider the following questions:)

2-  How could Jesus (PBUH!) possibly have omitted to mention something of such extraordinary importance?

* How could the authors of the four Gospels have made the same extraordinary omission?

(For no direct reference to the Trinity appears in any chapter or verse of any of the four Gospels. It is a patching-on from a later era.)

3-  Why does Jesus (PBUH!) in the Lord’s prayer address the Lord as “Father” and then refer to the Father’s children throughout as “Us” and “We,” instead of separating himself from the rest of the children of God, as the Trinity would seem to demand?

4-  (And here, brothers and sisters, is the big question, the question that takes no small degree of courage to address honestly:)  If redemption through the blood of Christ, that one member of the Trinity, is all that is necessary for salvation, how are we to explain the many, many occasions in the Gospel that Jesus (PBUH!) details the necessity of submitting directly to the One God — without ever mentioning the role of his (Jesus’, PBUH!) redeeming blood?

Brothers and sisters: Are these not extraordinary teachings? Are they not central to the ministry of Jesus (PBUH!)? And must we not confront dozens of them in order to defend the Trinity and the notion of the sacrificial Christ?

I am thinking, specifically, of:

1. His instruction to “Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind.” (Matthew 22:27.) — Jesus [PBUH!] identifies this submission to the One God as the *supreme* commandment, and yet for some reason he makes no mention within it of the sacrificial Christ or to one god in three persons, which are supposedly central to his ministry! Quite an oversight! Or are we to assume that Jesus [PBUH!] never actually uttered these words about the supreme commandment?

2. His parable of the Prodigal Son. This contains no reference whatsoever to the sacrificial Christ, or to any intermediary whatsoever for salvation. And the parable certainly makes no reference to the repentant son returning from his sinful journey to a father who takes the form of three persons. He returns to ONE father, not three. Surely we must either conclude that this, the most celebrated of the parables, has nothing to do with the Trinity or with the notion of a sacrificial Christ — or, if we wish to retain the Trinity and the notion of a sacrificial Christ, we must conclude that this is not an authentic teaching of Jesus [PBUH!]. Brothers and sisters, fellow Christians — which is it to be?

3. His instruction to become as children (humble, trusting, submitting to the Lord) in order to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. (See Matthew 18:3.) There is no mention here of the sacrificial Christ as necessary to this entry to the Kingdom, and certainly no mention of one god in three persons! Again: Are we to believe that this is not an authentic teaching of Jesus [PBUH!]? We must assume such a position if we wish to support the Trinity and the notion of a sacrificial Christ.

4. His insistence on the importance of the individual’s development of personal faith, without intermediaries, in the One God. This, my brothers and sisters, is Islam! If that word frightens us, or if we wish to make ourselves feel more comfortable with the actual content of this divine ministry, sidestepping for the moment its verbal labels, we may call it “Jesus’ ministry” or “Jesus’ teachings.” (PBUH!) But his ministry is manifestly one of submission to the One God, and we must think long and hard about the consequences of rejecting it in its true form. There are dozens of examples of such Gospel teachings about the development of STRONG individual faith WITHOUT INTERMEDIARIES, among them Matthew 6:23, 7:7, 17:20, Mark 11:23, Luke 9: 61-62, Luke 15:8, etc. etc. — and yet there is no mention in any of these or the many other such passages of the sacrificial Christ or of one god in three persons! Is not this a remarkable fact? How are we to account for it?

Brothers and sisters, I ask you as one who has closely studied the Gospel of Jesus (PBUH!) for thirty years: What kind of faith can we claim to be developing through the religion that bears this man’s name, if such faith is at variance with what he actually taught? Why, in other words, did Jesus (PBUH!) bother to teach his followers — you and I, brothers and sisters — of the growth of the mustard seed, of the woman who seeks for the ten silver pieces, of the impossibility of being fit for the Kingdom of God for one who sets his hand to the plough and then keeps looking back — why did he pronounce all these extraordinary exhortations to PERSONAL, UNMEDIATED faith in the One God, if all of them are to be superseded by his own unique personal role as a member of the Trinity and his personal blood-sacrifice for a sinful humanity? Again, we must choose whether we are to accept the Trinity and the notion of a sacrificial Christ, or we must choose to accepts the teachings of Jesus (PBUH!) concerning personal faith in the One God.

It is not a difficult choice, brothers and sisters.

There are, we would all agree, many corruptions in the New Testament. There are many points where the various texts contradict themselves or send strange messages patched on in later years. Yet if we read the texts carefully, we can identify those portions of the text that illuminate Jesus’ actual ministry on earth. It is clearly a ministry that preaches submission to the One God.

Brothers and sisters — seek carefully out the words of the man we have for so long called the Lord, and remember his words to us: “Why do you say Lord, Lord, and not do what I say?”

This is an excellent question!

Ghostwriter

6-  Conclusion:

Muslims believe that Prophet Jesus peace be upon him is a messenger from God.  He was sent from God Almighty to deliver God’s words to his people.  Jesus was never God, nor ever claimed to be God.  Jesus was a humble wonderful human being just like the rest of the Prophets and Messengers of God.

Back to Answering Trinity section.

Jesus’ Miracles were not unique in the Bible.

The “God” title in the Bible was given to others in the OT and NT.

GOD’s Spirit in the many others beside Jesus.

Jesus’ crucifixion in Islam.

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"We will soon show them Our signs in the Universe and INSIDE THEIR SELVES, until it will become quite clear to them that it is the truth. Is it not sufficient as regards your Lord that He is a witness over all things?" ~ (The Noble Qur'an, 41:53)
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